Beyond Alpha Centauri:: Discussion Thread 2

[Frankychan]

Hi everyone,

Just reminding everyone to keep constant with the timeline and character thread!

Cybergod,

What the very basic intention of mass drivers are like what Silence says:

In space, mass drivers basically grab any form of mass (asteroids, space junk, decrepit ships) and "fires" these things at there intended target at high velocitiy's. The resulting impact, not to mention the kinetic energy unleashed, is like an enormous wrecking ball. The "mass" literally explodes its target....generally speaking of course.

Kass,

I'll put my post up soon, so don't worry. The constancy of BAC will remain stable.

[Lonestar]

CyberGod,

Well, If you "Intercept" any transmissions from the Protectorate to the EC, it would have to be a inteligence leak from the EC's end. Remember, the Protectorate has remained (more or less) unknown for over 500 years. You can't do that without the best encryption Technology there is....

[Frankychan]

Lonestar,

I'm a little confused. Is your government a democratically-elected one, or is it a militaristic one controlled by a general-president (like Pakistan)?

I'm just asking because when you decide to announce your faction to the rest of the galaxy, the GHE might like to consider opening diplomatic channels with you...the Terrans, namely the EC wants to connect with us too.

It seems that your faction and mine seem to mirror each other, both of us are highly secretive and not much is known about us...Except by Emperor Yang's reputation. What do you say?

....just trying to brown-nose a little.

[Cybergod]

There it goes! I hope I haven't messed up anything, not actually waiting to ask to speak to Mr. Morgan

Can I attach images to my posts?

Lonestar, high level defencive probe rating can be equally matched with a high level offencive probe rating!

I can't draw the symbol I described in my post, plus I have no scanner. I will try some effects in Paintshop Pro to see if I can draw a swan with a crown, etc.

[Lonestar]

Very Brief rundown on the Protectorate's Political structure.

It's a Pseudo-Facist state, with the Chief executive being the Lord Protector. he has most of the power in the Government. Although Lord Protector Ian can be brutal at times (witness the use of Mass Drivers on the revolting New Europa colony, and the Usurper Colony at Daltron4) he is more concerned with the safety of the Protectorate.


There is a senate, which has limited powers (education, and the day-to-day affairs of Altair 4, with some minor influence in foreign affairs).

In order to vote, you most serve no less than 2 years in federal service(or as long as required, depending on specilty.)

Obviously, very isolationist. Used the Technology recovered from "graveyard" to perfect a cloacking device lon before most other Human Nations. Now that the first generation of Capital ships with Nanotech hulls are being produced, there is less need for a cloaking device.

Extensive contacts throught the rest of the Human Nations. Information brokers have managed to pas along most weapon systems of other human nations, although because the Hive has pursued similiar policies, not as much is known about them.

[History Guy]

Nice post, Cybergod (same thing to everyone actually). I'm going to respond later to Queen M., as CEO M. is very interested in making a treaty between his government and hers.

By the way, is anyone posting for the University?

[Kassiopeia]

Excellent, Cybergod! Must... write... post....

By the way, My BAC Website is up and running. Try to ignore the fact that nine out of ten links lead to nowhere. I have invested much in the Coalition part and the Coalition Space Navy stuff. Also ship design pictures are online!

By the way, is anyone posting for the University?

DarkCloud has dibs on the UoP, if I recall correctly.

Originally posted by Lonestar
You know I live for the approval of anomynous Apolytoners, Kass.

Well you don't have much of a choice... Though, if you insist, I have no objection of divulging my name... but that is quite irrelevant, is it not? And it would ruin all the fun...

Seriously, it just bugs the hell out of me if I suggest something storywise to a person, and the person does not respond.

[Mellian]

grr, why can't there be a good internet connection at this katimavik house :P anyway....

As for the Pirates, it wasn't in response to your post Lonestar,I should remember to whom i speak to and when i speak in general. Just that the believers cleared out an ASTOROID belt of Pirates? they must be the first faction (no such thing as nations within the human race...it is all factions.. of course some may argue, but i know the chirons simply gave up long time ago and stuck with Factions :P could be same with the Terrans) to ever be able to do that....crazy fanatical stubborn faction the believers are :P but to be able to keep it clear will be hard.......


as for the location of the Protectorate homeworld and then keep secret is to me, unrealistic :P Doesn't make since for drones, pirates and so on to simply ignore Altairs, without trying to explore the system and they will wonder why they keep loosing explorers too.... as for thinking they are Pirates, i don't think any faction like the Drones, Morganites and Spartans would like to see the Pirates have a proper hold of a system...especially an entire system... so may try to go in and prevent that, which would in turn discover the Protectorate... Just to say Lonestar, I am the games Realism and Consistancy Enforcer :P
I seem to have a nack to keep track of entire universes and be able to know where to find conflicts and problems in histories, technology and etc....

didn't we agree for none of humanity to have proper contact with the Proginators? also, I very doubt any Proginators will ever pass down advance technologies, especially Singulirity Reactors, to lesser race.... even if the are potential good friends... Proginators as been around for hundred of thousand of years.... use to have a big empire, but seperated into various factions for some reason, blasting themselves back to crappy tech...then rebuild their tech tree while having enough time to have bad experiences at trying to have alien allies..... hey, they are also at war with the Bree and who knows how many other side of Proginator Space...and they are busy fighting among themselves.... so i am not to keen in having very advance Humans.....who cares how small in exchange.

As for Wormholes.... why not old stargates built by some past alien civilization that use to span in this area of space, before the proginators or during the low ends of the devastating civil wars of theirs..... these stargates are driftiong within systems....but cannot be detected by current sensor techs, even by current proginator sensor/scanner techs.... the Fraal can find them, but not keen in telling "minor" races about them....as it would alow them to span a large area of space if they discover the ancient Stargate Network. So let say U.S.S. Endeavour (USA ship or a UN one?) destination was to a nearvy star system from Sol, but when they got there, they accidently discovered a Stargate....when trying to quickly investigate it before starting to colonize, it activated and suck in the low tech colony ship and threw them to another system, with some minor damages. by using the ancient Stargate Network, could be use in other histories....... like the one the one orbiting Dark Planet in the Sol system....which they control, but don't know how to properlly use it...or repair it after being slightly damaged during the secret Scion War in the 1990s agains the International Space Defence Force (Battlezone2)....and keep it away from the rest of the Terran Alliance. then, there is the U.N.S. Hope that left in 2070, a follow up mission to Unity as Earth lost contact and UN wanted to make sure humanity survives...... but when Hope arrived to Alpha Centauri, it coincedently went through the Stargate hidden somewhere at the edge of the system......and got sling shot to Lalande 21185....starting up the Lalande story from the Civilizations: Test of Times...just without aliens showing up at the same time and already being there...... then later on the Cybernetic Consciousness discovering them, but do not intefere as they are still low tech and occupied in rebuilding humanity there.... well, they may be intefering secretly, as they found some interesting ancient aliens stuff in the system....so that is one of the main reasons why the Cyborgs don't allow other factions to enter the system.


what you people think?


before i have to go, as others need the computer, the Master of Orion definition of Mass Drivers is like Impact Weapons in SMAC and Gauss Cannons. I like to use the Stars! definition and concept of Mass Drivers, sling shotting asteroids or slab of minerals at FTL speeds to another world at another system....... also can take advantage of gravitional pulls of system to sling shot stuff at FTL speeds, it is possible theoriticly.


anyway, seeya later........

-LMP

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Mellian


as for the location of the Protectorate homeworld and then keep secret is to me, unrealistic :P Doesn't make since for drones, pirates and so on to simply ignore Altairs, without trying to explore the system and they will wonder why they keep loosing explorers too.... as for thinking they are Pirates, i don't think any faction like the Drones, Morganites and Spartans would like to see the Pirates have a proper hold of a system...especially an entire system...

Well, while they may have intially believed pirates (not The Pirates) were in the Altair system, if you consult my timeline you'll note we left evidencing implicating the Progenitors at the destruction of a Drone Space Station that was constructed in system. Thus, If human factions repeatbly lose ships while entering the system (remember, the Protectorate had a leg up techwise, with the "Graveyard" on Altair3) they may decide not to investigate it that deeply, especially if large amounts of ships are needed elsewhere. (I wouldn't say no to the Hive being aware of our existence, as they have similiar polices and have probaly devolpe very efficient stealth or cloaking technology, like us)

so may try to go in and prevent that, which would in turn discover the Protectorate...

see above

Just to say Lonestar, I am the games Realism and Consistancy Enforcer :P

In a Sci-fi story thread?

I seem to have a nack to keep track of entire universes and be able to know where to find conflicts and problems in histories, technology and etc....

So do I. And I've amended the history where needed too. As the Drones are the only ones affected by this, I only needed their approval (which I got).

didn't we agree for none of humanity to have proper contact with the Proginators? also, I very doubt any Proginators will ever pass down advance technologies, especially Singulirity Reactors, to lesser race.... even if the are potential good friends... Proginators as been around for hundred of thousand of years.... use to have a big empire, but seperated into various factions for some reason, blasting themselves back to crappy tech...then rebuild their tech tree while having enough time to have bad experiences at trying to have alien allies..... hey, they are also at war with the Bree and who knows how many other side of Proginator Space...and they are busy fighting among themselves.... so i am not to keen in having very advance Humans.....who cares how small in exchange.

Hmm...you are not aware of the concept of "Proxy wars", are you? Perhaps the Caretakers passed down this Tech so that we would battle the Usurpers? (note that they are our primary enemy anyway). In Babylon5, this was a common plot, with the Advance Shadows passing tech to The Drakh and other races, while the Vorlons did the same with the Minbari. In fact, I was building for an encounter with a Usurper-Proxy race(or Human faction!).

Anywho,

Frankychan

How about we have two of our ships (both in deep space exploration) meet each other?

[History Guy]

Preparing a new post. Is there anything I should include other than a response to Queen M?

Oh hey there Lonestar! Good work.

[Silence]

How writeing about the arival of my Soliders of God at Morgan Interstellar.

[Frankychan]

So, the ruthless efficiency of Mellian/Lord LMP strike's again...

Well, Lonestar, You haven't been the first person to suffer at the hands of this thread's realism enforcer...LordLMP--->now Mellian.

As Mellian is the Realism/Constancy Enforcer in this thread (without this important author, the rest of us would not get an objective view), I am this thread's "morale officer" appointed rather unofficially by the "Thread-God"....although History Guy seems to be filling my post when I'm not here

Anyway, just try and listen to Mellian because an objective view does help when developing the plot....I know cause I've been burnt as well, Lonestar.

On a different note,

I would be glad to encounter the Human Protectorate. Your Pseudo-Fascist state sounds like a very unique form of government to me. I think we should discuss our potential encounter further. Maybe an unexpected encounter?

OK, so let me get this straight. The Lord Protector is the head-of-state for life? The senate is voted on by ppl who were in the military (Starship Troopers?) and the senate votes on important, but yet trivial, aspects of your factions life. The main decisions are made by the Lord Protector and his command staff. Am I correct or waaay off?

Good posting everyone! I really think Firaxis should pick this up as an idea for a new game. Put us in the credits Firaxis!!!

[Lonestar]

Well, let's see How about I have a 'Ranging Ship' (The Rangers) be attacked by a Usurper-Thrall races' vessel, while in deep space. Said ship decides to go ahead and land on a known Hive outpost.

Of course, the GHH might not take kindly to a unknown, apperently advanced Human ship making a emergancy landing on one of their planets. So, there might be a confrontation, should you choose not to hand them over immediatly....

You're right on pretty much all aspects of the Political structure of the Protectorate. We're a bit more lienient on free thought than the Hive is.

[Frankychan]

Hmmm,

How about the Protectorate Ranger ship finding one of the GHE's deep-space listening posts. Most of our outposts outside of the Hive Zone are deep-space spacestations, outposts on large asteroids, and mobile command center's.

Although finding something in deep space is 1 in a million, there still is that chance. Maybe if the Ranger ship becomes damaged, lands on an uninhabited planet that at the same time is being investigated by the GHE as a potential outpost, and in turn the GHE investigates your ship that is unknown to us....? How does that sound? If not, I think we have a lot of time to work out our encounter.

[Lonestar]

'Kay, How's this for a scenario:

The Ranger Ship lands on a Mars-like planet. A GHH listening posts notices a unknown vessel going down (it can be on the farside of the system or somthing) and sends a few companies of Marines/whatever to investigate.

As they approach, they notice the ship on the surface is transmitting (presumably a SOS). They jam the transmissions and land, intent on quickly recovering the ship before help arrives.

Help arrives in the Form of a Protectorate Battleship. When the Hive refuses to hand over the ship and crew, the Battleship Captain threatens to Vape the Listening post. So, we got a stand off. Well?

This way, the Hive can find out they aren't the Only Evil Bastards(tm) in the Galaxy.