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  • #16
    Here is a basic rule table, based on the game rules:

    Higher Goal - Transcendence Victory - Allowed
    Total War - Conquest Victory - Allowed
    Peace in our Time - Diplomatic Victory - Allowed
    Mine, All Mine - Economic Victory - Disallowed
    One for All - Cooperative Victory - Allowed
    Do or Die - No Restart for Conquered Factions - Allowed
    Look First - Flexible Start Location - Disallowed
    Tech Stagnation - Slower Discovery Rate - Disallowed
    Spoils of War - Steal Tech when you Conquer Enemy Bases - Allowed
    Blind Research - Can't Choose Your Techs - Disallowed
    Intense Rivalry - Everyone Hates You - Disallowed
    No Unity Survey - Map not visible - Disallowed
    No Unity Scattering - Pods Only at Landing Site - Disallowed
    Bell Curve - No Random Events - Disallowed
    Time Warp - Accelerated Start - Disallowed
    Randomize faction leader personalities - Allowed
    Randomize faction leader social agendas - Disallowed

    Disallowed means it cannot be used in the game and Allowed means it can be.

    Nex is a table of the factions, their leader, and the techs they currently have.

    Gaia's Stepdaughters - Lady Deirdre Skye - Centauri Ecology, Social Psych, Biogenetics,

    Human Hive - Chairman Sheng-ji Yang - Doctrine:Loyalty, Industrial Base, Doctrin:Mobility, Applied Physics

    University of Planet - Academician Prokhor Zakharov - Information Networks, Industrial Base, Social Psych, Biogenetics

    Morgan Industries - CEO Nwabudike Morgan - Industrial Base, Industrial Economics, Information Networks, Centauri Ecology

    Spartan Federation - Colonel Corazon Santiago - Doctrine:Mobility, Industrial Base, Applied Physics

    The Lord's Believers - Sister Miriam Godwinson - Social Psych, Industrial Base, Centauri Ecology

    Peacekeeping Forces - Commissioner Pravin Lal - Biogenetics, Industrial Base, Social Psych,

    Manifold Caretakers - Guardian Lular H'minee - Progenitor Psych, Field Modulation, Centauri Ecology

    Manifold Usurpers - Conqueror Judaa Marr - Progenitor Psych, Field Modulation, Applied Physics

    Cult of Planet - Prophet Cha Dawn - Centauri Ecology, Social Psych, Industrial Base

    Cybernetic Consciousness - Prime Function Aki Zeta-5 - Applied Physics, Information Networks, Industrial Base, Polymorphic Software

    Free Drones - Foreman Domai - Industrial Base, Social Psych, Applied Physics

    Data Angels - Datajack Sinder Roze - Information Networks, Planetary Networks, Industrial Base, Biogenetics

    Nautilus Pirates - Captain Ulrik Svensgaard - Doctrine:Mobility, Doctrine:Flexibility, Industrial Base

    Claims Begin Now!

    [This message has been edited by Barbarossa (edited August 24, 2000).]

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    • #17
      *Double post* (Sort of)

      CLAIM:

      University


      [This message has been edited by DarkCloud (edited August 24, 2000).]
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      • #18
        I Claim University.

        Should we not post a second topic for this?

        Barbarossa what is your claim?
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        • #19
          I believe people will have many questions:

          Are we using the standard SMAC map?

          When are we allowed to start posting?

          How should we work posting, all in one thread like Spartan Chronicles or in seperate threads per faction?

          Can I (Dark Cloud) write a cumulative summary of all posts every now and then a la Spartan Chronicles summary of events?

          How should time pass?

          Should we start on a certain day?

          All these and more... answered when Barbarossa next logs on.

          Thank You.
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          • #20
            quote:

            Originally posted by DarkCloud on 08-24-2000 09:44 PM
            Are we using the standard SMAC map?

            Yes. The Map of Planet.

            quote:

            When are we allowed to start posting?

            When I decide. And after everyone is finished claiming.

            quote:

            How should we work posting, all in one thread like Spartan Chronicles or in seperate threads per faction?

            All in one thread. When that thread get's too many potsts one of us will open a new thread.

            quote:

            Can I (Dark Cloud) write a cumulative summary of all posts every now and then a la Spartan Chronicles summary of events?

            I guess, what do you mean

            quote:

            How should time pass?

            I]m not quite sure about that part. I need to get in touch with a certain person named Gilgamesh.

            I can also do a brief summary of how the game rules apply, in a bit.

            [This message has been edited by Barbarossa (edited August 24, 2000).]

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            • #21
              Higher Goal - I don't think we should allow it ofr this sort of a game.

              Total War - Conquer all your fellow players.

              Peace in our Time - Try and convince enough players to back you in becoming Supreme Leader. This should be hard as I doubt other players will want the game to end this way.

              One for All - You and an ally or two try to wipe out your fellow players.

              Do or Die - Once your faction is conquered you can't return as that faction. Choose another (I might ammend this later).

              Look First - You land, I have placed your first colony.

              Tech Stagnation - No slow research. Just the normal pace.

              Spoils of War - Come to me after you have conquered a base and I will give you a selection of techs, of which you may choose one to steal from the conquered base.

              Blind Research - As long as you have prequesites you can choose which tech you want to research next.

              No Unity Survey - Your faction has a rough idea of Planet, but most is unknown.

              No Unity Scattering - All the pods are everywhere. You're going to have to look for them.

              Bell Curve - Every so often I will throw a random event at someone or everyone.

              Time Warp - We start in 2118.

              Randomize Leader - You are the leader of your faction, even if you speak as Zakharov or Yang.

              Randomize Social Agenda - Stick to your faction's game ideals. Even if you have your own agenda, front your faction's ideals as a cover to them. But on the whole stick to your faction's ideals. i.e. lal should not become a brutal tyrant.

              And we really do need more players.

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              • #22
                hmm, can we not have more than one player per Faction? can i jump one faction to the other?

                if no to both, Spartans i guess, or the Nautilus Pirates

                -LordLMP

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                • #23
                  No, we don't really need multiple players per faction. And you should stick with one faction.

                  DarkCloud - University of Planet
                  [LordLMP] - Nautilus Pirates?
                  gscott23x3 - Peacekeeping Forces
                  [This message has been edited by Barbarossa (edited August 25, 2000).]

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                  • #24
                    Right; I'm in. But my participation might be a little infrequent, at least in the start.

                    Now, what faction? The original seven, right? Then.. The Hive could be mine, please..

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                    • #25
                      Wioth the imminance of my departure I will take any default faction that hasn't been killed off by mid-october, and read the threads like crazy on my return to catch up.

                      I admit to still being a little confused. Will there be an actual map (scenario) produced (a la Spartan Chronicles) to identify who are neighbors, where the oceans are, who is landlocked, where the pods are, etc?

                      How will tech advances be monitored? Will SP's be "dealt" to each faction to write about? Unit production and base facilities? How will we handle these?

                      (Maybe we each get allocated 10,000 credits for our 360,000 pop, and we have to buy base facilities, troops, etc etc, recognizing that drone riots will occur after a certain pop size in a base without a rec commons or a creche, etc. Using the alpha.txt cost tables as our guide - remember they are then x 10 in the game) - or is this too complicated - easier to actually play a PBEM and write our experiences as we go?

                      btw, 360,000 pop sounds high - that's 36 heads by 2118 - or 12 size 3 bases - talk about a population boom!!!

                      If, on my return, Morgan or miriam are still available, I'll take either - maybe one could be on one of the remoter islands so that they are not contacted until mid october?

                      Googlie

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                      • #26
                        Nwabudike "Googlie" Morgan reporting for duty

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                        • #27
                          DarkCloud - University of Planet
                          Barbarossa - Spartan Federation
                          gscott23x3 - Peacekeeping Forces
                          [LordLMP] - Nautilus Pirates
                          self biased - The Lord's Believers
                          Googlie - Morgan Industries
                          Raging Mouse - Human Hive
                          LightEning - Planetmind

                          I must introduce the concept of IC and OOC. OOC means 'Out of Character'. This is where you speak as yourself and not your faction. IC means 'In Character' and is when you are speaking as your faction or leader. You don't need to say IC at the beginning of every post unless you are switiching from OOC to IC.

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                          • #28
                            Claims Thus Far:
                            DarkCloud - University of Planet
                            Raging Mouse - Human Hive
                            [LordLMP] - Nautilus Pirates
                            gscott23x3 - Peacekeeping Forces

                            And I as your humble moderator will choose the.....Spartans.

                            quote:

                            Will there be an actual map?

                            Maybe. I'm not good at cartography

                            quote:

                            How will tech advances be monitored?

                            Working on that.

                            quote:

                            How will SPs be "dealt" to each faction to write about?

                            If you have the proper tech and enough credits say that you are starting the construction of for example the Empath Guild. If another person starts it after you they can come to me secretly and say that you are hurrying. This way you can beat the person who started it earlier.

                            I'll try to explain more later.

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                            • #29
                              As I finally fired up ICQ and found Barbarossa's message...

                              I wasn't actually going to join the story at first, because I probably won't really have the time to participate in actions between factions, but...

                              quote:

                              Originally posted by DarkCloud on 08-23-2000 07:38 PM
                              Mindworms count as faction as does Planetmind.



                              Yes! If we follow the Cloudy rules, I will play as the Planetmind. I'll just go and read some of the planetgrammar and I'm ready to go!
                              This is Shireroth, and Giant Squid will brutally murder me if I ever remove this link from my signature | In the end it won't be love that saves us, it will be mathematics | So many people have this concept of God the Avenger. I see God as the ultimate sense of humor -- SlowwHand

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                              • #30
                                okay, Nautilus Pirates it is anyway, in 2118, doubt there is many factions that has ships...so an advantage Also, would be better for me than Spartans, where i know i won't get Sandiegos characters and spartans right :P
                                Anyway, we would have to keep score of money, and so on of the choosen faction?

                                As for map, why not the the original AX Planet map?
                                Would we operate like the game or can we do things where the game doesn't give the option too? like guerilla warfare, resistances in conquered bases, establish outposts, landmines/seamines, secret bases, and so on?
                                How will units divised? like in Spartans Chronicles...one Needlejet unit in the game represents one needlejet (way i see it) and in Alien Crossfire, one Needlejet unit is one squadron worth of needlejets in the story. How about infantry? will it be size up into Regiments, Divisions, platoons or whatever per unit? What about Secret projects? one unrealistic thing about SPs in the game is that, what stops the other faction trying to build their own version of the SP already built in another faction? realisticly, what stops another faction to have a Command Nexus aswell? a Marine place, Cloud Academy? Space Elevator? and so on?

                                just me with my crazy questions,
                                -LordLMP

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