anyone up for another Chiron Chronicles?

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by GeoModder


And for Obstructor's remark about possible habitable planets: I'm a bit home in exoplanet news, and it is today already possible to determine the gasses of an exoplanet's atmosphere. Last month oxygen was discovered on a jovian exoplanet.

Thus Unity wasn't a 'wild shot' then in this light. Perhaps not the amount of oxygen on Chiron could be determined, but surely the presence of it. Also, today exoplanets the mass of Saturn can be detected, and that is from Earths surface. With a dedicated spacebased telescope exoplanets a bit heavier then earth can be found in the next decade (if that mission gets off the ground, at least). And last time I checked, Chiron is heavier then earth


Hopes this helps your project.

This is just a wildshot, Geo, since not mere presence of oxygen is needed for a planet to be habitable. What if it is rich with poisonous gases (ok this is stupid since we can see tha in SMAC people refer to toxic atmosphere). Is there liquid water and is it mostly water? That could be check too by next generations of telescopes but frankly I do not think we can accomplish anything big in science. Aside for m the Humane Genom Project, there were big projects that have failed. Apollo program was shut down abruptly, construction of the Supercollider has been called off simply because "discoveries that it could make would not enable any practical appliances". Recent space initiave declared by Mr Dorky is just a big laugh. I am afraid it will taked maybe 70 years to walk on Mars, not 20 or 30 . There is much talk but there is little action. If only advances in field of medicine, nanotechnology and computers could be replicated in other fields too.

BTW where did you read the exact amount of colonists Geo?

And why don`t you join us? We could use more writers.

[Mellian]

Captain Garland says in the 'Journey to Centauri' official intro story that Unity had a crew of 10 000.

of course, base on the story, over a thousand or more didn't survive the cryo sleep either because of the meteor impact, didn't survive cryo due to malfunctions caused by other things, died because of some sabotage, died due to the infighting before and during the rush to get into colony pods, and failed to get into a colony pod in time.

so not sure exactly how many people each colony pod ended up having, but it is obvious that i would be even and that many in all the pods didn't join a pod base on some ideology. i figure there is an average of 1000 to each pod, and i think for story purposes, we should avoid getting in population sizes and etc...

also, now that i know for sure each faction started with around one thousand colonists each story wise, i don't think they would be popping up bases in the same rate that seems to be shown in the game...so could be a few decades before any faction, depending on their circumstances and etc, could possibly consider plopping another base. also, depending on the faction, i don't think the whole population would be completly located in the base, as some may end up in rural/suburb areas to tend to farms, solar collectors, mines and etc...with the help of some automated hardware / robots, as some unity pods seem to indicate within the game.

anyway, i'll go post a draft of some/most of the rules and guidelines in the datalinks thread, a long with a basic structure of the setup in that thread. so please comment here once you see it.

-mellian

[GeoModder]

Believe me, Obstructor. If a astrobiologist hears about the presence of oxygen on a eartsized planet, he will shout out 'live' directly. Oxygen cannot survive long in a chemical stable atmosphere. It is washed out, disbanded, eliminated, or whatever word you wish to use.

As for the amount of colonists, I guess I remembered that number from the long-ago reading of the promotional story from Firaxis. As it turns out, Mellian seems to have readed 10000 souls on board Unity. Perhaps I mixed up with 7000 actually reaching the surface of Chiron.

And about joining: I'm sorry, nor the time, nor the writing capabilities for long stories are mine.

[Mellian]

oh and obstructor, considering the SMAC verse indicates bunch of problems during the early to mid 21st century, there could have been an armed race, re-build up of militaries and some new cold wars which, from past historical experiences, does encourage a lot of research into various things...first meant for military uses, but as with any militarty techs, they tend to spawn civilian uses as well. considering that space around earth would obviously be the next battlefield for at least some of the first nations and etc, there will be lot more research into space base stuff.

-mellian

[Sovereign]

Whoa.

A lot of science stuff. I better grab my 10 year old Physics textbook.

I'm awaiting the doors of this story to open up.

[Frankychan]

I wouldn't mind being a co-author for the Hive...but I would rather take a subordinate route than actually lead the Hive plotline.

[Illuminatus]

More writers! More writers! I would also take co-plotline for Cult, so tha Gaian-Cult plot can turn out accordingly.

[Sovereign]

...taps foot impatiently...

[Mellian]

yes yes

i seem to have this curse that whenever i try to start something, something else in life appears to end up taking up a lot of my time. will for sure try to find some time to continue stuff..

feel free for any of you to write up a draft rules and guidelines for the story, and etc.

-mellian

[Sovereign]

I will try and figure out a rough draft, and I'll post it tomorrow or by the weekend.

Then you guys can go over it and let me know what should be added, changed, or removed.

[Illuminatus]

/me gets unpatient

[GeoModder]

Well, why don't you people start writing? It's not as you have to wait 'till Mellian pops up again...

[Illuminatus]

Well must set up a basic plotline and Sovereign applied for it. I will setup basic plotline for Gaians and Cult tommorow, and if NO ONE makes the whole in next three days I will do it myself. Some people ....

[Sovereign]

Sorry, guys.

I've been swamped with work, but now that I have a lot of free time this weekend, I can get right back on working a rough draft of the rules.

Expect it posted by either tomorrow night or Sunday night at the latest.

If I don't make the deadline, you guys are free to create a lynch mob to hunt me down.

[Mart]

Originally posted by obstructor


... I am afraid it will taked maybe 70 years to walk on Mars, not 20 or 30 . There is much talk but there is little action. If only advances in field of medicine, nanotechnology and computers could be replicated in other fields too...

When world descents into maddness of competition with use of weappons of mass destruction there can be a group of international organizations, companies, firms or any like that groups understanding the danger in which humanity may find itself. What if that new international organization directs effort behind governments to find habitable planets for humankind? Let us say they start working in 1990 around and until 2040 they advance astronomy and other civilization advances and technologies in secret. Till 2040 Chiron is as much investigated as it now appears better chance for humanity than Mars - which is too close to Earth, and some countries on Earth might threaten Martian colonists. Thus Alpha Centauri is chosen. Then they cooperate with UN building "Unity". From 1990 till 2040 there are so many decades - a lot can be fit in there.

Why this organization will achieve so much till 2060? Because it will be devoted to sending people to Chiron, not concerned with public oppinion demanding bigger burgers and cheaper gasoline.