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[Lazerus]

Is it possible for a moderator to just kill the Spartans in the current game, so the current game reverts to a 4 player game?

Asking some of the older CMN's / tool makers would be your best bet on that

[Senethro]

How about a 3 player game with 2 factions each?

[Chaunk]

3 players, 2 factions each, no ai, tech trading with other players not allowed sounds like a blast

I'll take uni+gaians please, on the assumption that duplicate factions will be ok with everyone.

I'm presuming here that our 2 factions start in contact with each other (On the same landmass, with commlinks from the get go, not on the same square though). I've played a few games like this, and they're a real blast, especially since you will need to prioritise SP's for certain factions for example (Can't have both factions get +1 talent from the HGP for example) They can get quite time consuming though, so I'd advise against doing two massive sprawling ICS factions...

[Lobo7922]

Ok then i will take the cybernetics and the hive if you dont mind?
Muahahahahahahahahahaha *evil laugh*

[mmontgomery]

I have never played two cooperating factions before. We definitely need to make sure that each players factions are structured to go one right after the other, to minimize turn communication overhead with each other.

My gut reaction is to pick University and Hive.

Sounds like fun!

[Lobo7922]

Oh we can have duplicate factions? 0_0
And why all you are choosing the power of university?
Maybe i should choose cybernetics and Domai instead, just to teach you a lesson XD

[mmontgomery]

I changed my mind. I think I would prefer Hive and CyberCon as well. Sorry for the duplication Lobo, but I think you have picked a killer combo.

[mmontgomery]

So where do we go from here? Are we all satisfied with this setup? Are we ready for someone to create this game?

[Lobo7922]

Im not in my house during these days, but i hope i cvan start playing by monday.

Senethro we wait for your guidance!

[Chaunk]

Are we happy with these settings?

Preference.. | Settings

Map size | Large
Ocean | 50-70%
Erosion | Average
Life | Average
Clouds | Dense
Difficulty | Transcend

Transcend | On
Diplomatic | On
Economic | On
Cooperative | On
Do or Die | On
Flexible start | On
Tech stag | Off
Spoils of war | Off Changed due to the CyCon being in the game.
Blind research | Off
Intense riv | Off
No survey | On
No scatter | Off Meaning pods everywhere
No rnd events | On
Time Warp | Off
Iron man | Off
Rand person | Off
Rand social | Off

Only tech steal needs to change, as otherwise both of your CyCon factions are handicapped.

I'm happy for native life to be rare though if you both prefer that. I consider that to not be too great a handicap for the gaians, as I view their strengths in other areas.

Factions:
Chaunk - University & Gaians
Lobo - CyCon & Hive I'm not sure if you wanted CyCon and Drones Lobo?
Monty - CyCon & Hive again.

All consecutive to cut down on waiting (So the in game order would be CyCon(Lobo), Hive(Lobo), CyCon(Monty), Hive(Monty), University, Gaia, Empty Slot (No AI). Our pairs of factions would start off with commlinks for each other, and a pact.

Have I missed anything?

I've PMed Senethro to draw his attention to this thread.

[Lobo7922]

yes i want the industrial power of Domai

[Lobo7922]

And i agree with the conditions

[Senethro]

Ok, thanks for the PM Chaunk. I'll try to set this up tomorrow, or Saturday. Bear in mind that I'm also not good at deadlines.

Any other special rules required? I'll be force-pacting your factions to prevent anything weird being done by teleporting units by unpacting.

How far apart would you like your factions to be from each other? From other players? Continents? Pangaea? Continents with landbridges?

What starting units?

Would you like me to orient the map towards early conflict (pre-air power) or late conflict?

Final issue, I've forgotten how to give duplicate factions different colours. To save me the indignity of PMing someone smart like Darsnan, do you know Chaunk?

[Chaunk]

The colours will be set by the players when they load the turn, so it really makes no difference. The only issue is if the spartans are being duplicated, as they have a strange letter colouring system. Here, though, it makes no difference, just have the faction listed twice on setup.

Starting units should probably be standard - the game will go fast enough with 2 factions each, and multiplying units will multiply domai's research handicap.

I think the only special rule we concreted was no tech trading between each other, which doesn't need a CMN to control.

With regards to the map, my preference would be for one continent per player, but I suspect that may be my builder tendancies Continents with landbridges works well, but I would not like a pangaia. I think that natural separations are good, and if there is no ocean between us, then why would we ever launch a foil?

I would very much object though if our 2 factions start with other factions in between. I want them to be able to defend each other easily, so the distance should be minimal.

I would also prefer a later conflict map, but I think that 10 squares should be the maximum distance between our land masses. That would allow for a transport foil to get to an opponant in 4 turns, which is a. close enough to be reasonable, b. far away enough to prevent an easy land bridge and c. give ample opportunity for someone with airpower to spot a foil early.

[mmontgomery]

One minor detail. I would like my Hive faction to move before my Cycon faction. If Chaunk can live with alien life rare, I would prefer that. Otherwise, the setup parameters look good to me.

I would like the distance between cooperating factions to be minimal, literally starting right on top of each other is fine with me. I was envisioning cities intertwined with each other.

I am not sure about isolating each faction on a continent. Maybe a small defensible bridge between continents? I am specifically thinking about probe actions long before we get into a full scale war. But I am OK with the continents if Chaunk really prefers this.