"Randomness is Good" turn tracking thread

[SebP]

2112 to Humphrey. i don't know about you others, but i think 1 turn a day is a good speed, and smac games don't take too many turns. i'm now 2 weeks and 4 turns in an 8 player civ4 game, and those usually take at least 350 turns... and nothing much happens in the first 60 or so!

[Flubber]

Originally posted by SebP
2112 to Humphrey. i don't know about you others, but i think 1 turn a day is a good speed,

I agree-- Most games take a day per player on average so getting the turn twice a week is pretty normal. At OUR rate we will be into interesting gameplay in a couple of weeks.

Of course there may be occasions when diplomacy slows down the turn. Sometimes a person's response is KEY to how you play your turn and in that situation IMHO the turn may have to sit.

[SebP]

Originally posted by Flubber
Of course there may be occasions when diplomacy slows down the turn. Sometimes a person's response is KEY to how you play your turn and in that situation IMHO the turn may have to sit.

I agree. And this is probably my most important reason to be against hard time limits. Sacrificing part of the experience of the game just for speed doesn't appeal to me.

This is not to to say that i am any good on all things diplomacy btw

[Humphrey]

Sent

[Flubber]

Originally posted by SebP


I agree. And this is probably my most important reason to be against hard time limits. Sacrificing part of the experience of the game just for speed doesn't appeal to me.

This is not to to say that i am any good on all things diplomacy btw

Plus the hard limits originally proposed were draconian.

I mean 3 HOURS??? As fast as we have been, almost everyone has been way over 3 hours at some point The way we have the game set up Humphrey almost aways posts the turn at 9am my time when I cannot play until after 6pm . If he could play before 7am my time though I could play immediately. But darn-- gotta go earn a living

[bluetemplar]

Ok, I agree, It was a bit too harsh...
But I was really desperate seeing that some games going a the turn speed of 2 turns per month!

I still think that this kind of limit could be achieved in setting up an automatic process (which could be delayed for diplomacy purposes or the like...).
The main problem is that if one player loses interest for the game and delays the turn, after some time the other players will also lose interest (because the game is too slow), and the turn rate will drop to 1 every 2 weeks or worse... A hard limit would force this uninteressed player to play faster his turn (or skip it if really he doesn't care), thus keeping a fast pace for the 3 other players!
(and I know that in the 3-9 months that this game will last, I most likely WILL get desinteressed for this game for at least a week...)

And hard limits can always be stretched for dimplomacy purposes, RL stuff, etc... as long as it doesn't take too long...

[SebP]

Originally posted by bluetemplar
The main problem is that if one player loses interest for the game and delays the turn, after some time the other players will also lose interest (because the game is too slow),

sadly this is true... it has happened in 2 of the 4 pbems that i played (culprit wasn't me)
however, i think it happens most often with players who are in only one pbem, and i think we are all in several

well, i'll at least follow your example and finally send my password to... uhm, who do we send it to?

[bluetemplar]

In the first post...
EDIT: 2 times
EDIT2: well i'll put it here also:
smacpbem@archives.civgaming.net

(I think they won't frown upon us doing this, even if we don't have a CMN... (that's the reason for sending passwords is VERY important: if one password is missing, the game is dead!))

[Flubber]

hmmm

I have been a contributing member of this community for 5 years so I doubt I'll lose interest

That said -- there may come a time when a vacation or work committments may require me to be unavailable for a period of time-- I will most likely ask someone like Darsnan to fill in for me in such a situation ( I will fill in for him in some of his games when he goes away so I expect he would return the favor) although if the situation is particularly tense I may prefer to have the game held for a few days.

[Flubber]

2113 to bluetemplar

Oh and the turns ARE less interesting now that I have run out of pods -- I guess I'll have to be satisfied with just THREE mark2 ogres

[bluetemplar]

Only three? I had three by 2105!

EDIT: 2113 to SebP

[SebP]

are the both of you serious?
2113 to humphrey.


EDIT: ok, mark 2, i guess i'll go over there and check my irony detectors

[Humphrey]

sent. My pods are boring so far, but I do see some more to go for.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Humphrey
sent. My pods are boring so far, but I do see some more to go for.

ahhh-- it must be nice to have some land

Flubber studies the darkened map and wonders on which of them Humphrey may be found



Oh and boring can be good if it means a few ec, a monolith or a nut bonus-- I even like worms asince killing them is easy

In fact--- in the early game I think the only BAD pop is a fungal pop

[Flubber]

Oh and in case you guys haven't figure out the pattern-- I'm at the start of my workday and can't play for another 8-10 hours.


Even though our pace is relatively fast, I can't help think how amazingly fast it could be if only the pass from Humprey to me didn't come right at the start of my workday