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This game came out in 1999 so it is 10 years old and isn't even sold any more so why continue to mod it when there are so many new and more interesting games out there? I really liked CTP2 and admit that the moding community really fixed a lot of bugs and game balance issues but it came out before Civ3 and now we're looking forward to the release of Civ5 so I put the game to rest. I mean if an AC2 ever came out, and there is no indication that such a thing is in the works, then that's one thing but decade old software isn't exactly the sexiest thing out there.
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"new" - of course, there is always something new, but does that always mean better?Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
"more interesting" - well, that's up to each individual to decide.
I recently bought Guild Wars and I play it often, but I easily put 3-4 times as many hours into playing AC because I find it more interesting.
Monopoly was patented in 1935. Many games have come and gone in those 74 years, yet Monopoly boasts 485 million players worldwide, with an estimated 750 million players since its introduction. Chess has been around for thousands of years.
So AC has a loyal following measured in many hundreds, if not some thousands. Hardly time to abandon one of the best-written games of all time if those loyalists are not interested in any of the pretty new baubles dangled before their eyes.Last edited by gwillybj; May 5, 2009, 11:14.I am on a mission to see how much coffee it takes to actually achieve time travel.
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Age and number of copies sold do not equate quality. It was truly a piece of art I return to on a regular basis. CIV4 is a better game in many ways but I play them side by side.SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
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O, this verges on explicit trolling, regardless of your motivation, but is actually a good question anyway.
The short answer is that the game’s just that good.
A full answer, I don’t feel like taking the time to compose, as it would be quite long, but SMAC has that addictive OMT quality that has made the Civ series the success it is. The game was always at its heart about good, turn-based strategy, and that doesn’t age.
Is it dated? Of course. Is it flawed? Yes, scient has been lionized for taking on fixing the bugs- and he’s been at it for months. Were the graphics all that good even at the time? No, I don’t believe they were, and ten years is forever in the computer games world.
But- there’s something magic in the game that I’ve never seen equaled. I own Civ4, liked it- it’s still installed and on my desktop- and haven’t played a second of it in three years.
As a rhetorical question why do you like whatever it is you play? Because it’s fun, right?
Same here for SMACers. AC is just that good.Comment
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Also, not everyone runs the latest-up to date software and hardware. Because SMAC(X) was made 10 years ago, it will run on a machine built many years ago too.Into Alien Crossfire? It has been almost 10 years. Time to update your datalinks.
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It actually also run on pretty modern HW - my ½ year old 2 GHz dualcore XP Pro makes it a pleasure to play the game (I prefer really big maps/late conflict and that hurt on slower HW)
Oerdin, have you ever tried SMAC/X ? It's addictive when you learn the game - though, it take some time to get at a sufficient level.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Because there are people who still play the game!Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
Everyone is invited to see all the activity at the new SMAC forum (launched only Friday)!
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For me, its the unique combination of civ style gameplay and top flight science fiction. Actually, civ style gameplay plus just about anything other than civ interests me; I'm still waiting for Master of Magic 2 (and still playing the original from time to time!).
With so many games, you're faced with the question, why play the old one when you've got the new one? With SMAC, there is no new one. There literally hasn't been one like it since... and there probably never will be. That's what Brian Reynolds has said, at any rate.
Personally, I think that if they (whoever "they" happen to be) were ever to open source the concept, fiction, tech tree, etc. at the very least, if not the code base itself, the fan community could not merely keep it alive, but expand and refine it to the nth degree. Look what has been accomplished with what we do have!To those who understand,
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Ironwood raises a point I missed before. SMAC tells a story. There's a science fiction epic in the Frank Herbert tradition in there.
I mean, it really gets your interest s you start out learning how to play the game... Excellent design as an immersive, addictive turn-based strategy game keeps you for ten years.
As others have pointed out, the proof is in a healthy gaming community so many years later. The question shouldn't be "Why do you all play this old game", but "What makes it so wonderful that it lives so many years later?"
Ironwood, we miss you.Comment
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Why? Because I asked a question you don't like and would prefer not to have asked? I'm glad you ended up liking the question anyway.Originally posted by Buster's Uncle View PostTry http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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If you whore that website any harder I think you'll end up permanently bow legged.Originally posted by vyeh View Post
I will download a copy of SMAC/X (which I have not tried) and see how it plays.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Because -I like you, Oerdin, or I wouldn't have called you on it AND answered the question politely- you're coming into our fan club and not bothering to be diplomatic with a question that clearly implied that our game that you hadn't tried sucks. At best that's nerd manners and at worst a plain troll.Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
You're not a noob, and you should be better than that.
Correction. Pimping. He's at worst, a player-coach, and please don't be so nasty. He's providing a service to the community in spreading the word.Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
That's the spirit. It's fine game, and if you try it, you'll probably understand/get hooked better than all our pangyrics to the game could ever do.I will download a copy of SMAC/X (which I have not tried) and see how it plays.Comment
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Let's keep this nice and civil and use language appropriate for a family friendly forum.SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
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