Drone Revolt feature on SMAC...

[Commy]

A short and quick question...

Has anyone ever seen a drone revolt on the original SMAC? That is, have you ever seen a city revolt to another faction...

I knew this feature was on SMAX, but I never knew it was on SMAC until it happened to my just last night...

[dojoboy]

No, I've never seen it happen w/ SMAC, just w/ SMAX.

[Kataphraktoi]

short and quick answer...no

[xalien]

It happened to me once years ago, not long after I started playing it. I took one of the PK's base during late game stage and naturally it was big and full of drones. I had a lot of units and bases occupying my attention and I failed to notice that drone problem for 2 turns, so it flipped back to PK's.

[molly bloom]

Not once- either in SMAC or SMAX.

Something to look forward to over the SMAXmas break...

[Flubber]

Well you will never get an AI base flipping to you in either version IIRC. So the only time it will happen is if a human player allows it to happen (usually through inattention)

[Commy]

I was stunned at first when I saw it happen...one of my University bases flipped over to the Spartans...

I was easily able to get the base back, but still, no where does it mention this feature in the original SMAC...perhaps it is an undocumented feature of the 4.0 patch...

[Petek]

From page 63 of the original SMAC manual:

DRONE RIOTS

If the number of Drones in your population exceeds the number of talents, the result is a Drone Riot, which shuts down the base's entire research and production capabilities. If left unchecked, rioting Drones start to destroy facilities, and may even cause a base to defect to a rival faction.

[Method]

You really have to try pretty hard in order to get it to flip.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Method
You really have to try pretty hard in order to get it to flip.

I think in essence it has to be in full riots for two turns before it can happen. I think you can never get an AI base to flip even if you incited drone riots 20 times through probe actions

As for my bases I would sometimes like to lose one so I could probe-rape an opponent but thats just too much of an exploit and has been banned from MP

[Illuminatus]

AI bases cannot revolt because AI has certain bonuses when it comes to managing drones. You can easily get a base to revolt - just have a base supporting several foils/MWs/rovers outside your teritory and run FM without micromanaging new drones. Bases seem to always revolt towards the nearest faction.

[Kataphraktoi]

Actually,they can revolt,they are simply impecable on handling it.they will never end their turn without stopping drones via specialists.

I lost a base as univ in a pbem to drone revolts,to the free drones. fortunatly,it happaned in a reload i did to check out the situation,and not on the turn i played\sent.

[Leon Trotsky]

Originally posted by Kataphraktoi
Actually,they can revolt,they are simply impecable on handling it.they will never end their turn without stopping drones via specialists.

Which is not necessarily a good thing - sometimes the price is too high, in the form of famine.

[nhs_boy]

...and the famine-inducing bit is often one of the best ways to reduce AI overall populations without committing atrocities...

I once played a game where I tried to see how many civilians I could slaughter indirectly, and keep the 'noble' descriptor - twisted but entertaining for once or twice.

[drlaryp]

Drone revolt

Happened recently to me in a threeman game. I was letting the govenor handle it but the city flipped to the Gaians (another human player). Believe me, I didn't have to try hard. We hadn't even had contact yet being relatively early in the game. I used the opportunity to probe some techs but I'm not sure that was "legal". (Judging by the above post, its not) Does anyone know a standard accepted way of handling this situation? Another reason I hate drones....