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Quick question what brought you to AC? What about civ Iv didn't you like and what do you like better in AC? Thanks!
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Civ3 brought me back to AC few years ago and now Civ4 brought me back to AC again
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a number of things brought me back. i like sci fi settings. in some ways they are better than historical settings because there is no "real world" model to compare them too. it's all too obvious that i'm not in mongolia when i'm playing a civ game (or a historical rts for that matter). but when i'm on planet or whatever it's called, i really could be in this other world. i also like height on maps that has a strategic meaning, it adds another level of complexity as well as realism. the map generator in smacx is so neat i sometimes just look at maps. (now that's tired.) i also like building and there are so many things to build in smac. finally, i love the atmosphere. the "characters" are well developed, the diplomacy, while idiosyncratic, is hilarious, and just consider the hundreds of pages of text with all those marvelous quotes, some real-by the worlds great thinkers- and some imagined-by yang or lal. these are an added bonus that give diversion and tremendous character to the game. think of all the time spent on just that aspect of the game.
having said all this i will play civ 4 for one reason only-it has a quick game. i'm partway through one game and it has been alright. i bought civ3, cheaply thank god and was bored to tears by it. i really gambled with civ 4 but i think i'll play it.
the feature that i would wish for smac would be the ability, as in many civ games, to choose how many opponents to play. that is good for learning purposes.
thanks for asking. i appreciate smacx more than ever. it's one of the best pieces of coding out there and to think i picked it up for 9.99 canadian which is about 1.37 u.s., about the price of a cappuccino at starbucks. sir s.Comment
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Civ is an awful simulation of history. The complexities of historical epochs are reduced to a few brightly coloured units and the game encourages a perception of victory through the accumulation of territory and infrastructure. Typical post-colonial thinking.
At least in AC it's science fiction, so these excesses are easier to stomach, though the faction leaders are pretty base caricatures (Yang anybody? Apparently future collective societies are based on some sort of Taoist psychobabble . . . )Comment
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I think Yang is supposed to represent a Socialist society that actually works due to being based partially on Aesthetic Virtues. In any case, the Hive can still be seen as the good old "Cult of Personality" that every era in history needs.- NanoDingo [INTJ, E6]Comment
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you dare to mock yang!
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Well, come on. "Learn to embrace the self of society . . . the goals of the collective outweigh those of the individual, and to achieve them is to achieve transcendance"? That's sort of (meaning extremely vaguely, and in a distinctly American way) a dumbed down version of Maoism, but instead of the formal, bureaucratized language of Maoism, it gets expressed in Taoist terminology.
It's traditional for dictators to have classical interests, but the classicism (most of the time, at least) doesn't masquerade as political theory. There are good reasons for this. Dictators have to run societies, and that means taking politics as politics, even if the politics is based on some underlying racial theory.
Basically all the faction leaders are cultural stereotypes deformed into political philosophy. Lal is Ghandiesque, which is why he has to appear before you in full (but undefinably) ethnic regalia. Deirdre, Miriam, Zhakarov, same thing. Santiago and Morgan aren't so bad, but it might just be because I can't figure out the twisted ethnic logic, because one of the designer's motivations was clearly to emphasize the ethnicity and "distinctiveness" of the various faction leaders.
Notice that the two most militarily aggressive factions in the original AC are led by women.Comment
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What the hell?!Originally posted by Worker Bee
Civ is an awful simulation of history. The complexities of historical epochs are reduced to a few brightly coloured units and the game encourages a perception of victory through the accumulation of territory and infrastructure. Typical post-colonial thinking.
Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.Comment
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Is that a bad thing?Originally posted by Worker Bee ...because one of the designer's motivations was clearly to emphasize the ethnicity and "distinctiveness" of the various faction leaders.
Yang is a woman now?Originally posted by Worker Bee Notice that the two most militarily aggressive factions in the original AC are led by women.
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- NanoDingo [INTJ, E6]Comment
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im actually inclined to agree. a mod ive wanted to do for civ4,since i first heard of the modability,is taking out victory nearly completely, and making some sort of system whereby nations can actually decay,instead of snowball to victory...havnt gotten around to tinkering yet,though(partly because my cIV disk went badOriginally posted by Worker Bee
Civ is an awful simulation of history. The complexities of historical epochs are reduced to a few brightly coloured units and the game encourages a perception of victory through the accumulation of territory and infrastructure. Typical post-colonial thinking. )
a sort of minor victory system would be nice,whereby say egyptions have the pyramids and most culture of the world,and get a culture win. game goes on,egypt decays, and its someone else's turn. that said,i probably couldnt even get it implemented,because it would be so much work
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Played by AI, Yang is just a bump on the road compared to Santi and good ole redfaceOriginally posted by NanoDingo
Yang is a woman now?
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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Fair enough. But he's always spawning everywhere. Ick. Get the flame-guns.Originally posted by BlackCat
Played by AI, Yang is just a bump on the road compared to Santi and good ole redface
- NanoDingo [INTJ, E6]Comment
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Are you serious? I've never seen the AI do anything useful with Sparta.Comment
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WTF? Yang is a female!??Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.
- Paul ValeryComment
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