Sid Meier Interview

[Kataphraktoi]

someone in the civ forums proposed it. cant take credit...but it is the next big thing that has to be there for me.im sick of playing these games with 2 settlers and a huge empty landmass. basicly add a EUII spin to the game...

[PJayTycy]

[OT]Why does everybody link nano technology with robots?? Nano technology is a very broad name. It covers everything that is man-made on nanometer scale. This ranges from very small logic building blocks to medicine. Maybe there has been a movie or serie that abused the name to refer to small robots or something? I really don't get it.[/OT]



Aside from that, an empty landmass is realistic. I can't imagine a very small group to survive on planet (let alone how they get there alive). As for the gameplay element, Firaxis tried to counter this with the fungus, mindworms, etc... in SMAC and the barbarians in Civ.

[binTravkin]

I did not link it with robots!
See my article bout nanoplague which is probably the best military use for nano.

[GeoModder]

Difficult to 'see' your article if no link to it is provided Bin.

[binTravkin]

Sorry, misspelled, not an article, remark..

[Kataphraktoi]

edit;in regards to the nano question

because people,unlike robots,are made up of impossibly complex systems. a robot could never could close to being like a human,but a anndriod,that mimics a humans build in every way,including the incredible small sizes of indivudual parts. nano means small,i think,so nano-tech just fits. and then it gets extended to andriods in the same way

and androids in sci fi are very similar to humans or having pervoiusly been humans,but upgraded.at least in the sci fi i see

heres the guy from my avatar for example

[GeoModder]

'Upgraded' humans are referred to as 'Cyborgs', at least in the scifi I read.

[Kataphraktoi]

i mean way upgraded humans that arnt humans.cyborgs are upgraded to.but not as much as androids
well i just like dragonball so im titlted towards that anyhow

[Illuminatus]

/me says no to Dragonball in SMAC

[binTravkin]

'Upgraded' humans are referred to as 'Cyborgs', at least in the scifi I read.

SMAC human-upgrade timetable:
1.Soc Psych (increased knowledge on psychology)
2.BioGenetics (allows 'genetical' selection)
3.SOFTHB (furthermore, I guess the fundamentalism it allows is WAY above the one we have had thus far, trance as well - something of an enchanced hypnosis)
4.Cent Emp (allows empath skills)
5.Neural Amplifier (mechanical upgrade of senses)
6.BioEngineering (some fiddling with cells)
7.MMI (mechanical upgrade allowing direct brain-digital system link)
8.BioMachinery (first cellar level links between human and machine)
9.Homo Superior (human cells transformed into amalgam of nanotechnology - hence the 'nanohospital' and biology, also enchanced one)
...

So, 'Cyborg' is something starting in L5 of my timeline and ending at L8 where transition in a "NanoHuman" begins.
Nanohuman would then be L8 - ... (matter editation and some other things would provide further upgrades).

On the "..." levels:

Imagine a human able of:

1.being 100 times as tough as steel or flexible as water - MatterEditation on cellar level (nano + matter Edit), but that would be possible only after matter editation on laboratory level, thus not on L10 as matter editation is techwise, but probably on L11 or so.

2.lifting himself into space - Antigravity on cellar level (also likely to come some time after lab antigravity)

3.Breathing in space, erm sorry, he even't won't need to breed, because he's feeding from Quantum Power plants sized as small as mitochondrius in our cells.

etcetc

[Mart]

Originally posted by binTravkin


SMAC human-upgrade timetable:
1.Soc Psych (increased knowledge on psychology)
...

You mean I read a book on psychology and it makes me a cyborg ???

[binTravkin]

You mean I read a book on psychology and it makes me a cyborg ???

So, 'Cyborg' is something starting in L5 of my timeline and ending at L8 where transition in a "NanoHuman" begins.
Nanohuman would then be L8 - ... (matter editation and some other things would provide further upgrades).

Read, entire post, please.

[GeoModder]

Pretty much comprehensive, Bin.

[binTravkin]

Thanks.

I have been keen on sci-fi since 6 or 7 years' age and some time around 13 or 14 I realised I've read all sci-fi literature available in Latvia (be it library or store).
Quit reading some time ago as I noticed a repeating pattern in the newest sci-fi works, but the thinking remained and when I saw the SMAC tree it immediately attracted me by it's logic and how discoveries follow each other.

This tree is by far the most realistic future technology predicting thingie I've seen on regards to human evolution(if we can call it so).

I once read an article on MSNBC where those "Genetically improved humans" (Sometime around BioEngineering by SMAC timeline) where estimated thousand years in future!
I was amazed by plain stupidity and blindness of the author as figures like 'million years' also could be find there..

In fact NG is in it's starting stages with those machines for blind with direct picture input to brain from camera.
BioEng also seem to be not so far with this intensive "longevity gene" search going on.
MMI will be here and commonly used in some 15-20 yrs IMO and nanohumans will follow in 10-15 more yrs if nothing changes in the current tendency of research and overall human development.

[GeoModder]

We're even on the brink of 'nano-machines', if predictions of that space elevator are not too premature.