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  • #16
    Wow. I thought Cha Dawn was a woman all this time. How androgynous.
    So, you're gonna change your avatar right now?

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    • #17
      Nah, I'm an asian guy, so it fits.

      Well, to be more on topic, I'm trying to find more unorthodox strategies. I was thinking of running University with Police State in order to absorb the extra drones. Has anyone tried this?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by cal_01
        Nah, I'm an asian guy, so it fits.

        Well, to be more on topic, I'm trying to find more unorthodox strategies. I was thinking of running University with Police State in order to absorb the extra drones. Has anyone tried this?
        people have tried pretty much EVERYTHING but I haven't seen anyone write on that combo so heck do some tests and write it up as to what you find . .. Do you plan to play perfectionist or more an ICS style since the lower efficiency will hurt with added b drones earlier plus you will hit inefficiency losses that much sooner
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        • #19
          Originally posted by cal_01
          Nah, I'm an asian guy, so it fits.

          Well, to be more on topic, I'm trying to find more unorthodox strategies. I was thinking of running University with Police State in order to absorb the extra drones. Has anyone tried this?
          Well there's always Yang
          Who is Barinthus?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Barinthus
            Well there's always Yang
            Hah, that's true. However, I'm not too good with University since I find it hard to go aggressive with them for some reason.

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            • #21
              Why do you want to go aggressive with the University?
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              • #22
                To try something new, I gather?
                He who knows others is wise.
                He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                • #23
                  Hm, okay.

                  Next time I might try using the Believers for a tech win
                  (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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                  • #24
                    Simple, let them run demo.
                    He who knows others is wise.
                    He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                      Hm, okay.

                      Next time I might try using the Believers for a tech win




                      But going back to the original post, sounds kind of like me. I'm running Police State and once I convert to Planned I get +1 Planet. I gotta remember to take a screenie to show youse guys...but lately when I try making a screenie, the only thing I get is a black image with the dots of the other faction units.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GeoModder
                        Simple, let them run demo.
                        I'd like to see Lal run Police State...now THAT would be something...
                        Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                        Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                        *****Citizen of the Hive****
                        "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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                        • #27
                          Yes, my Spartan game used to be very, VERY weak until I learned to take advantage of the improved police rating. The money, minerals and time you save by utilizing police state plus cheap garrisons is precisely enough to help overcome the crippling Spartan industry penalty.

                          Being a builder by nature, it was very difficult early on to adapt to the anti-construction Spartan playstyle, but what I did is got into police ASAP, then shifted gears toward IA. All the while pursuing a policy of ultra-thin expansion. Once IA was grabbed, I whip out PTS for an instant faux pop-boom. At that point I'll typically leap to the front of the population race, and can use that extra size to either bully my immediate neighbors, or begin a second wave of expansion and pave the world.

                          The other nice bonus of the police-heavy Sparta is that bureaucracy limits rapidly become meaningless, as your cheap police units and rec commons ignore superdrones (as opposed to psych).

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                          • #28
                            Of course, Free Market is a hands-off setting then.
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                            • #29
                              Yes, absolutely. I'm not a big fan of combining Free Market and Police in any case, as the efficiency hit dissolves a good portion of the cash you get from Free Market, and the police problems of Market eat the best benefit offered by Police.

                              I typically like to go Police/Planned/Knowledge with Sparta. The high police rating, as I pointed out, makes b-drones a non-issue, and a healthy sprinkling of specialists can take care of your cash and tech needs.

                              Free Market doesn't suit Sparta for other reasons, as well. First of all, the industry penalty and inability to run Wealth make building the infrastructure necessary to maximize your benefits from a high energy income very difficult indeed. The Spartans need to live up to their namesake, and only construct such facilities as they absolutely require: Commons, Command Centers, Genejacks, Tree Farms.

                              Besides, staying in Market means you're forgoing your innate strengths as well, namely your crack military troops. Free Market thrives with good trading partners, and a good Spartan needs to stay aggressive. To be sure, once you've realized gains in a war of conquest and have reaped the benefits of your momentum strategy, you can switch to Free Market/Demo and still retain your lead, but you're never going to TAKE the lead without a campaign of aggression. Doing that properly means building lots of bases which in turn shall support lots of troops.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by CEO Aaron
                                Yes, absolutely. I'm not a big fan of combining Free Market and Police in any case, as the efficiency hit dissolves a good portion of the cash you get from Free Market, and the police problems of Market eat the best benefit offered by Police.

                                I typically like to go Police/Planned/Knowledge with Sparta. The high police rating, as I pointed out, makes b-drones a non-issue, and a healthy sprinkling of specialists can take care of your cash and tech needs.

                                Free Market doesn't suit Sparta for other reasons, as well. First of all, the industry penalty and inability to run Wealth make building the infrastructure necessary to maximize your benefits from a high energy income very difficult indeed. The Spartans need to live up to their namesake, and only construct such facilities as they absolutely require: Commons, Command Centers, Genejacks, Tree Farms.

                                Besides, staying in Market means you're forgoing your innate strengths as well, namely your crack military troops. Free Market thrives with good trading partners, and a good Spartan needs to stay aggressive. To be sure, once you've realized gains in a war of conquest and have reaped the benefits of your momentum strategy, you can switch to Free Market/Demo and still retain your lead, but you're never going to TAKE the lead without a campaign of aggression. Doing that properly means building lots of bases which in turn shall support lots of troops.
                                Sounds like you have a play-style like mine.

                                For me though, I tend to go Demo/Planned with Spartan since the efficiency effects cancel each other, and I get a nice growth bonus out of it. Later on, I might switch to Fundie if I feel evil and see that my +2 Morale bonus isn't enough to completely crush my enemies.

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