Back In the Beta...

[MysticWind]

Or the planning stages, or whenever, what were some initial ideas that were cut or changed?

*Santiago was originally supposed to be a man.
*There were something different with the Peacekeepers.
*I know for sure that Yang's and Zakharov's symbols were different.

What else?

[Illuminatus]

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115826&highlight=once+it+looked+like

A thread with old SMAC screenshots. Somewhat related to the thread.
If I had some time, I could talk about ages about everything that was cut out.

[Flubber]

I believe they dropped the idea of different typesof weapons that would have difefrent bonuses against different types of armour

[Illuminatus]

Some "remains" and weird lines in script.txt:

#TOOMUCHENERGY
#xs 320
#caption Chief Engineer
That choice would exceed this chassis's energy rating.

#NOCHARGE
#xs 400
#caption Operations Director
This unit has expended its special ability charge. To recharge,
it must spend a complete turn resting at a friendly base.

#FEATURE
#xs 440
#caption Things that make you go UNH.
Feature not yet implemented.

#BETAFEATURE
#xs 440
#caption Things that make you go UNH.
This feature is disabled for this test release.

#HYPERSTIM
#xs 400
#caption Operations Director
Hyperstimulants activated! Unit's movement rate doubled until end of
turn. Unit can opt to use "skip" (space bar) command to expend
hyperstimulants and repair all damage.

#POLYMER
#xs 400
#caption Operations Director
Polymer adhesives placed! Movement into/through this area impeded.

#FUNGICIDE
#xs 400
#caption Operations Director
Fungicide activated! Area cleared.

#VOICE
#xs 400
#caption Operations Director
Subliminal Coercion activated! Select action:

Force target to attack.
Force target to retreat.

#VOICEFIZZLE
#xs 400
#caption Operations Director
Subliminal Coercion attempt fails.

#BUYPROTO0
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"It cost me a pretty penny to develop the $LASERCRAWLERPROTOTYPE0.
Are you willing to part with $NUM0 energy credits for the plans?"

"Never mind."
Pay $NUM0 energy credits.

#BUYPROTOHIGH0
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"It cost me a pretty penny to develop the $LASERCRAWLERPROTOTYPE0.
You'll have to come up with $NUM0 energy credits before I'll part
with those plans."

#PROTOPACT
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"I am pleased to report that my engineers have completed
the new $UNITTYPE0 prototype ($STATS1)! The first units are entering service
now. Would you care to share prototype data?"

"No. My prototype data is too sensitive."
"Yes, let us combine our prototyping efforts!"

#NEVERBASESWAP
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"I shall never allow your wretched minions to defile the
domes of even the least of my beautiful bases." - if it wasn't for the bug...

[Illuminatus]

Re: Back In the Beta...

Originally posted by MysticWind
Or the planning stages, or whenever, what were some initial ideas that were cut or changed?

*Santiago was originally supposed to be a man.
*There were something different with the Peacekeepers.
*I know for sure that Yang's and Zakharov's symbols were different.

What else?

I digged up my old computer magazine in which they wrote about game in development, SMAC, . Among interesting things: Believers are called the Conclave, Hive is the Labyrinth, University is Archon, Peacekeepers are just Keepers. It looks like Hive's and Peace logo switched places, University's has a wrench featured on it, and one of strengths of Archon is listed as skillful engineering and support. It also has a wastly different graphic.

It is featured also in system.txt:
95, ALIEN RED--NOT REALLY USED.
142, GAIAN GREEN
250, LABYRINTH BLUE ;This was 208. No longer any good?? jsc
62, ARCHON WHITE
241, MORGAN YELLOW
70, SPARTAN BLACK
219, CONCLAVIST ORANGE
227, KEEPER PURPLE
208, TEST COLOR

[MysticWind]

Any more info about the earlier factions and storyline and characters?

[Flubber]

I do love the old look

[Commy]

Just a while ago there were some cool screenshots of the original and older versions...amazing...

I would like to see those polymer adhesives...land mines baby! Perhaps they wouldn't affect hovertanks?

And stimulants? Can you say...STEROIDS!!

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Commy
Just a while ago there were some cool screenshots of the original and older versions...amazing...

I would like to see those polymer adhesives...land mines baby! Perhaps they wouldn't affect hovertanks?

And stimulants? Can you say...STEROIDS!!

The change I would like would be sea sensors. I hate the micromanagement necessary to maintain an adequate patrol of the sea particularly once those cruisers are going 9 tiles. I think a seaformer or even a probeship or warship should have the ability to plant sea sensors

[Senethro]

Easy. Just mod alphax.txt so you can build sensors in teh sea.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Senethro
Easy. Just mod alphax.txt so you can build sensors in teh sea.

Apparently it doesn't work though since the game doesn't see the sea as being part of your territory and sensors only work inside your territory and putting a seabase nearby defeats the whole idea

[Ka Plewy]

Doesn't SMACX extend coastal bases territory out to sea? If so, you can at least put them at the limit of your territory.
Not much, but better than nothing!

[Chaos Theory]

Coastal bases extend your territory out to sea a distance of 1 tile. Hardly worth using for sensors, really.

[livid imp]

Could you somehow increase the sea tile territory radius in the alpha(x).txt for costal bases ?

[Maniac]

Only by increasing all territory radii:
8, ; Territory: max distance from base (ie, a land base)
A change in this lin proportionally affects sea base and coastal bas radii as well.
Problem is you can hardly eg double the land territory radius to get some extra sea territory: then you could claim an entire continent by building a single base on it.