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  • #31
    Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
    I'm thinking of the Hologram Theatre not only as a cinema like thing, but with proper psych and welfare funding, it will eventually manifest itself in schools and homes, hence educate. As a smaller version though.

    I mean, it will bring Discovery Channel-like documentaries, right? And schools will eventually harness it like they do with normal TV's and such.
    Hmm... could be. But I still believe that hologram theatres are mostly used for entertainment and propaganda.

    I would even go so far as to suggest that making certain luxuries affordable such as (the AC equivalent of) televisions are a result of psych investments.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Chaos Theory
      A rec commons alone will control 2 superdrones.
      those things are expensive to build and maintain though . Research hospitals take care of the superdrone.

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      • #33
        Thats rather ironical

        Research Hospitals have 3 times the cost and maintenance!
        Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
        The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
        Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
        We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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        • #34
          Research hospitals do other stuff then control drones though.

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          • #35
            Thats not the point.

            In ICS, the priority is drone control (besides the primary point of building as many bases as possible) not to enhance the labs or psych of the base.

            Sure, psych increase leads to drone control, but only evident in higher level bases, which isn't really the priority in a new ICS base.
            Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
            The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
            Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
            We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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            • #36
              The whole premise behind ICS is production. Assume you have the PTS running FM and you have a new size 3 base (1 worker and 2 doctors to cover 2 drones) making 2 labs and 2 ECs. You now build a Research Hospital. This now turns one drone into a worker so you add 1 lab plus 1 lab extra production from the RH. You end up with 4 labs and -1 EC (2 produced minus 3 for RH). 4 labs and -1 EC = 3 production

              Compare that to the same set up with a Rec commons instead. Size 3 base (all 3 are workers with a Rec Com) making 3 labs and 3 ECs. Adjusted 3 labs and 2 ECs (-1 EC for the Rec Com). 3 labs and 2 ECs = 5 production. Plus you spent less to build a new city, expanded your territory, increased your power, not to mention the extra worker is producing more nuts and mins.

              Eventually the RH will be worth it, but generally not until the city is size 7+.
              "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
              "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
              "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
              "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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              • #37
                Rec commons and rec tanks are the only facilities that I put in *every* base I intend to keep. 2 workers for 1 EC/turn and 4 mineral rows up front is too good to pass up, especially when it turns superdrones into workers.
                "Cutlery confused Stalin"
                -BBC news

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
                  Thats not the point.

                  In ICS, the priority is drone control (besides the primary point of building as many bases as possible) not to enhance the labs or psych of the base.

                  Sure, psych increase leads to drone control, but only evident in higher level bases, which isn't really the priority in a new ICS base.

                  research labs control 1 drone in addition to their psych increase and the research increase.

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                  • #39
                    Only one drone for 3 times the cost?

                    Thats 6 times less effective.
                    Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
                    The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
                    Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
                    We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
                      Drones = discontent

                      Talents = well contented, so contented, that in fact, they neutralise any damaging effect a drone's discontent has on stability through their influence.

                      Discontent comes through many ways. Lack of a longevity vaccine for good health is one.
                      Well, like the other posters said its not a matter of "anger" or "happiness" as much as direct social well-being

                      Talents represent people who actually raise living standards ie doctors researchers and the like - hence the bonuses are not alwasy simply limited to raising psych for others (and even psych is symbolic of more than purely psychological well being)

                      I could be wrong, but if it *is* true that its purely mental "discontent" being represented by drones workers and talents, then the imo designers of the game are mixing up their metaphors at least a little. You cant just pump money into propaganda all the time and automatically get your results back - and sometimes drone activity increases from protests at a lack of a childrens creche. So I guess you have to use your imagination

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                      • #41
                        The game does represents doctors (and similar types) as "Specialists", so your presumption that Talents take that role is a bit... presumptious let us say.
                        He who knows others is wise.
                        He who knows himself is enlightened.
                        -- Lao Tsu

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