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  • #16
    Its in a flaw in the sense, the effect is considerably less. I mean, a lot more people being happy is worth more than just making a profit, even if its considerable, noting of course the profit is limited.

    Simple and Green economies won't go quite as far, but would make sure that the price would be affordable for pretty much everyone.


    I'm thinking its not just a "angry or happy" thing, but that it helps ease healthcare concerns, improve living conditions and raises the education level.

    Noting that drones not only result due to sentiment, but for example, many children get sick so they cannot keep up, drop out of school, etc.

    Okay, just another observation.

    I think optical computers should have another benefit. Previously before then , network nodes should increase by 35%, not 50%. With optical computers, this is restored to 50%.

    This also helps delay some of the severe, almost too much technological advantage the Uni has.
    Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
    The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
    Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
    We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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    • #17
      Check the alphax.txt

      Interestingly some facilities were to lose maintainance costs after certain techs. That would've been interesting.
      #play s.-cd#g+c-ga#+dgfg#+cf----q.c
      #endgame

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      • #18
        Were to lose?

        Why wasn't it implemented?
        Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
        The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
        Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
        We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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        • #19
          No its not cumulative, from what I've seen you have base econ, then the buildings all add their modifiers to that, then the whole of that is what the econ adding wonders work on.


          Also drone control is pretty easy with ICS

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          • #20
            Also drone control is pretty easy with ICS


            Eh doesn't it increase?

            I imagine by the time you hit 100+ bases, you get 20 superdrones at every base...(noting that it never gets more than base size), but still...
            Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
            The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
            Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
            We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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            • #21
              All of your workers are specialists save 1, so there is only 1 superdrone to deal with. HGP+facility or HGP+pysch does the trick usually.

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              • #22
                A rec commons alone will control 2 superdrones.
                "Cutlery confused Stalin"
                -BBC news

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                • #23
                  I think that Aerospace complexes need to be redesigned. We need to have one facility that would train and repair the air units, and another facility to give a defense bonus against air attacks. At the moment the CBA is so devastating because it provides both these for every base with no upkeep. If it were downpowered to give only a morale boost for air units, that would be less unbalancing.

                  As it is, I lock the CBA and choppers out of my games altogether.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by WotanAnubis
                    You see, in a Planned economy, the vaccine would probably be distributed (almost) freely by the government, which would make a lot of people happy (or less angry, if you prefer).

                    Actually... in SMAC terms I would prefer something like "socially better performing". It's not that drones are angry at your or something like that - it's just that they're poor, uneducated, outside health care, having to resort to crime, etc.. Or then they're just angry, like in the case of pacifism with a low police rating. It's not like the creators of the game never confused moods and social statuses...

                    (note: The first person who replies to this post in a way that includes, in any way, leftist and rightist politics, will be promptly shot by yours truly)
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                    • #25
                      (note: The first person who replies to this post in a way that includes, in any way, leftist and rightist politics, will be promptly shot by yours truly)


                      Yeah the text does refer to talents and drones in terms of education.
                      #play s.-cd#g+c-ga#+dgfg#+cf----q.c
                      #endgame

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                      • #26
                        Drones = discontent

                        Talents = well contented, so contented, that in fact, they neutralise any damaging effect a drone's discontent has on stability through their influence.

                        Discontent comes through many ways. Lack of a longevity vaccine for good health is one.
                        Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
                        The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
                        Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
                        We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
                          Actually... in SMAC terms I would prefer something like "socially better performing". It's not that drones are angry at your or something like that - it's just that they're poor, uneducated, outside health care, having to resort to crime, etc..
                          True. I just placed "angry" and "happy" as quick little short-cuts.
                          Of course, Drones generally are angry, otherwise they wouldn't be rioting. And the Recreation Commons (and even more so, the Hologram Theatre) provide entertainment for Drones, making them less angry, but still just as poor, uneducated and sick as they were before.
                          "I'm too young and too male to be the mother of a seventeen year old female me!"

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                          • #28
                            BUT Hologram Theatres can be a good education medium, thus funding towards education (vested in Psych) is more effective.

                            I honestly think SP Psych effects should not be lumped into something called "Secret Projects". For example, the Longevity Vaccine only reduces health problems, and not pacifism. Whereas Hologram Theatres can brainwash more. Or stuff like that.
                            Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
                            The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
                            Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
                            We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
                              BUT Hologram Theatres can be a good education medium, thus funding towards education (vested in Psych) is more effective.
                              Really? How often do you go to the movies to be educated?

                              Nah, I say that the translation of Richard Baxton's adventures to big holovid are more for entertainment purposes...
                              Unless the newly released Morganware action figure includes details on his untimely demise.
                              "I'm too young and too male to be the mother of a seventeen year old female me!"

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                              • #30
                                How often do you go to the movies to be educated?


                                I'm thinking of the Hologram Theatre not only as a cinema like thing, but with proper psych and welfare funding, it will eventually manifest itself in schools and homes, hence educate. As a smaller version though.

                                I mean, it will bring Discovery Channel-like documentaries, right? And schools will eventually harness it like they do with normal TV's and such.
                                Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
                                The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
                                Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
                                We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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