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  • So, what is the police unit given by Self-Aware Colony like?

    Generally, is it a normal military unit for police?

    Is it a police unit with non-lethal methods?

    If it has non-lethal methods, or if it doesn't - what about the +3 Police, "Police Effect Doubled"? Does that count?
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  • #2
    There is no real unit, just an effect like there was one.

    Try imagining it as a 0-0-0 unit with clean ability and still having the property of "military unit" thus giving police bonus!

    It gives you -1 drone if your police rating is <3 and -2 drones if Police = 3
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    • #3
      Are you sure of that?
      When I build the Self-Aware Colony, I get an extra drone, instead of one less.
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      • #4
        Was your police rating negative then?
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        • #5
          hmm, my game gives me -1 drone if police < 3 & -2 drones if 3..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maniac
            When I build the Self-Aware Colony, I get an extra drone, instead of one less.
            What I found is if I have +3 police rating, and have 3 police units present (which should stiffle 12 drones), when I build the Self-Aware Colony, my police now only suppress 10 drones. Furthermore, I get 10 drones suppressed whether I have a 3rd police unit present or not. It is as thought the 3rd police unit is being replaced by the Self-Aware Colony police, althought not as effectively, since it only suppresses 2 drones instead of 4.

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            • #7
              3 police units at +3 police will each quell 1 + 1 (non-lethal) + 1 (+3 police) = 3 drones, not 4. Thus, you should have been quelling 9 before, and 9 after.
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              • #8
                I am not sure that is what is supposed to happen. Police +3 says it DOUBLES police effect, not adds one. So if I am already suppressing 6 drones at Police +2, then suppressing 12 drones at Police +3 seems correct. In any case, that is what does happen. And I have personally experienced that in this case, Self-Aware Colony results in extra drones.

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                • #9
                  It has been observed that a doubled doubling results in a tripling in this case. Are you sure you don't have other effects suppressing drones? Do you have a screenshot of the psych screen so we can figure out what's going on?

                  Since this goes against what everyone here expects, either it must be wrong, or we must be wrong, and we should sort this out.
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                  • #10
                    +3 police DOES NOT double police effect, it just adds one additional drone that can be quelled.

                    Same with non-lethal methods, the equation is to add one, not multiply by two.

                    So in essence, you should, with 3 police units with non-lethal methods, and +3 police, quell 9 drones. With the self-aware colony, I presume that it follows the limits, so it cannot be a fourth police unit, capping it at only 9 drones being quelled.

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                    • #11
                      Then the Self-Aware Colony only works in this case only in bases with 2 police units max.?
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                      • #12
                        No, it still halves maintenance (I am assuming that problem with it not working was fixed in one of the patches?)...

                        And if you only have two units, it still works.

                        Personally, I never build it, so I don't give a care one way or another. I am just simply curious as to how screwed up SMAC really is...

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