Disappearing bases??

[Illuminatus]

One other thing, I think that freeing factions was introduced in SMAX patch 2.0.

[Commy]

So they surrender to you. So if you demand things from them, will they turn on you? Just wondering.

And, ah, that leads me to another question. Has anybody ever seen the AI commit an atrocity besides planet busting bases? I never have, even when playing against the progenitors.

[Enigma_Nova]

I've seen X-units come at me before.
None of them ever hit home, but it was easy enough to tell what they were planning to do - running through my 'mincing zone' to my HQ with nerve gas pods.

[Commy]

what about demanding things?

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Commy
So they surrender to you. So if you demand things from them, will they turn on you? Just wondering.

No - they remain submissive no matter how strong they get and regardless of the demands for techs or credits that you make of them (in fact, when you open the commlink, if they have a tech they'll give it you with the "it is my pleasure" spiel). But, if you commit atrocities that total 20 or more on the atrocity scale, they will turn on you and declare vendetta (basically a single PB or captured base obliteration, 3 - or maybe 5 - nervegas uses or 2 or more own-base obliterations, or ten or more nervestaplings - there's a list somewhere that I've seen which gives the scale but I've rummaged and can't find it

And, ah, that leads me to another question. Has anybody ever seen the AI commit an atrocity besides planet busting bases? I never have, even when playing against the progenitors.

When a CMN creates a scenario start for a PBEM, there's a flag in the AI diplomace screens that lets the CMN toggle a switch "commit atrocities wantonly" as well as "obliterate captured bases". If flagged, then the AI will do that - use nervegas, obliterate captured bases, and will build - and use - multiple Planetbusters

G.

[Illuminatus]

When a faction has surrendered to you it is submissive. You can extort things from them (use "Otherwise I shall cancel our PoB" when explaining yourself). Faction can turn submissive without being defeated by anyone, and the same applies too.