NFL Football - 2012 Season Thread

[Al B. Sure!]

A friend of mine ran into Mike Vick today... at a pet store:

[-Jrabbit]

Bears took the Temple TE/H-back Evan Rodriguez in the 4th. Bet they regret dumping Olsen last year.

Weird the Bears didn't draft any O-line, but I'm committed to giving Emery the benefit of the doubt this year. Which is to say, I'm assuming they have a plan...

[Lord Avalon]

A friend of mine ran into Mike Vick today... at a pet store

Was he buying Siamese fighting fish?

[Tupac Shakur]

Four Fighting Illini in the first two rounds. Tells you everything you need to know about Ron Zook.

That he was a good coach? Or are you implying that coaching up high NFL draft picks is a bad thing?

[Al B. Sure!]

Bears took the Temple TE/H-back Evan Rodriguez in the 4th. Bet they regret dumping Olsen last year.

Weird the Bears didn't draft any O-line, but I'm committed to giving Emery the benefit of the doubt this year. Which is to say, I'm assuming they have a plan...

FYI, Rodriguez has baggage.

[Demonbinder]

Bears took the Temple TE/H-back Evan Rodriguez in the 4th. Bet they regret dumping Olsen last year.

Weird the Bears didn't draft any O-line, but I'm committed to giving Emery the benefit of the doubt this year. Which is to say, I'm assuming they have a plan...

I've heard it mentioned that the Bears feel their O-line is fine. They look at the fact that once they reigned in Martz the last two years the figures for the O-line really improved as each season went on. There is something to be said for it but I really thought they would get something since they really don't know if Carimi is healthy and can really play. We have to hope they are right on this one.

[Donegeal]

Rodriguez has baggage.

Their first rounder is undersized and more apt for a 3-4.

Their second rounder has questionable dedication and a potential weight problem.

Their 3rd rounder is broken (shoulder).

Don't get me wrong, they all have nice potential plus sides, but ALL OF THEM have questions and could all end up out of the league in short order.

[Al B. Sure!]

Rodriguez has baggage.

Their first rounder is undersized and more apt for a 3-4.

Their second rounder has questionable dedication and a potential weight problem.

Their 3rd rounder is broken (shoulder).

Don't get me wrong, they all have nice potential plus sides, but ALL OF THEM have questions and could all end up out of the league in short order.

Da Bears

[-Jrabbit]

That he was a good coach? Or are you implying that coaching up high NFL draft picks is a bad thing?

That he's a good recruiter who develops players into NFL-ready specimens, and still finds a way not to win.

[Tupac Shakur]

Isn't that better than all the other Illinois coaches who couldn't win or develop players?

edit: To be clear, you're arguing that you had a head coach who could both recruit and develop NFL-level talent (a very rare combination), but you fired him for a lack of gameday execution that would have been better solved by hiring different coordinators. Sounds like a great plan!

[-Jrabbit]

Yes. Yes, it is. I did not state otherwise; just said, quite specifically, that that's what Zook was/is.

Re your edit: I did not offer a judgment or an argument. Everything following "you're arguing that..." is your interpretation of the implications of my statement, apparently blaming me for Zook's firing to boot. I wasn't talking about that. Yes, I did imply (and subsequently stated) that he was deficient in the area of "winning." Which is mathematically and factually verifiable.

Reading is a skill, Drake. I just made a simple statement regarding the early run on Illinois players in the NFL draft. That's all.

If you want to re-open the discussion of Zook's firing, go troll the college thread.

[Tupac Shakur]

OK.

[Donegeal]

Only one O-lineman signed as an Undrafted FA. It's a good thing that Cutler is going to be doing bootlegs this year; it's just gunna be hard to tell when it's a designed bootleg and when he's just running for his life.

[Al B. Sure!]

Only one O-lineman signed as an Undrafted FA. It's a good thing that Cutler is going to be doing bootlegs this year; it's just gunna be hard to tell when it's a designed bootleg and when he's just running for his life.

What's with the Bears making so few UFA signings? I saw the list for all the teams and every other team signed twice as many as the Bears did.

[Al B. Sure!]

Only one O-lineman signed as an Undrafted FA. It's a good thing that Cutler is going to be doing bootlegs this year; it's just gunna be hard to tell when it's a designed bootleg and when he's just running for his life.

What's with the Bears making so few UFA signings? I saw the list for all the teams and every other team signed twice as many as the Bears did.