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    Istanbul (CNN) -- The business deal looked fairly straightforward. Last week, American basketball star Kobe Bryant agreed to become the new celebrity face of Turkish Airlines, a growing international carrier.

    Though he has admitted to never having visited Turkey, the Los Angeles Lakers guard said in a news release that "Turkey is a country rich in natural beauty and thousands of years of cultural history, and I'm proud to partner with Turkish Airlines to bring that majesty to people around the world."

    Within days, however, Bryant's decision was being denounced by Armenian groups in North America and in Los Angeles, which is the hometown not only of the Lakers, but also of the largest ethnic Armenian community outside of Armenia.

    "Turkish Deal Will Make Kobe the Face of Oppression and Injustice" and "Kobe Bryant's Direct Flight to Inhumanity," announced the website of the Armenian Youth Federation.

    Armenian diaspora groups in North America have launched a media and Internet campaign urging Bryant to drop his Turkish Airlines deal.



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    In Toronto, about 30 Canadian-Armenians protested against Bryant, holding signs that said "Kobe: Do the Right Thing," outside the stadium where the Lakers played the Raptors on Sunday.

    What appeared to be a standard and presumably lucrative celebrity endorsement has run headlong into a passionate dispute over a bloody chapter in history that took place in the highlands of eastern Turkey nearly a century ago.

    Armenian groups and many scholars argue that starting in 1915, Turks committed genocide, when more than a million ethnic Armenians were massacred in the waning days of the Ottoman Empire.

    Modern-day Turkey officially denies that a genocide took place, arguing instead that hundreds of thousands of Armenian Christians and Muslim Turks died in intercommunal violence around the bloody battlefields of World War I.

    The genocide debate is an annual source of tension between Turkey and the United States, two NATO military allies.

    Every year, the White House beats back efforts in Congress to pass a resolution which would formally recognize the 1915 massacres of Armenians as genocide.

    In March, Turkey temporarily withdrew its ambassador to Washington in protest, after the House Foreign Affairs Committee narrowly voted in favor of a nonbinding resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide.

    The resolution was subsequently blocked from reaching a vote on the floor of the House of Representatives.

    American officials worry that Turkish anger over the genocide resolution could impact US use of the Incirlik airbase in southern

    Turkey, which is a vital logistical hub for troops moving to and from Afghanistan.

    The Turkish government has expressed concern in recent days, over reports that outgoing House speaker Nancy Pelosi may try to bring an Armenian genocide resolution to vote in the final days of the current lame-duck Congress.

    Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu phoned his American counterpart Hillary Clinton on Friday, to "emphasize the seriousness of the situation," a Turkish diplomatic spokesman said.

    "Even though this is a lame-duck session, what we understood is that this is a serious possibility and we had concerns for different reasons," said Turkish foreign ministry spokesman Selcuk Unal, in a phone call with CNN.

    This month Pelosi came under fresh pressure to schedule a vote from an unlikely lobbyist -- reality TV star Kim Kardashian.

    The Armenian-American celebrity urged her 5.6 million Twitter followers to call Pelosi to urge her to schedule an Armenian Genocide Resolution vote.

    As part of his two-year contract to be Turkish Airlines' new "Global Brand Ambassador," Bryant is expected to make television and print commercials, as well as a number of public appearances for the company.



    I just dont see how this is anything more than "much ado about nothing"

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    Not to a ****load of Armenians. I think he should have left a country of which he's ignorant out of his endorsements.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
      Not to a ****load of Armenians. I think he should have left a country of which he's ignorant out of his endorsements.
      Im glad we get to this right away.

      Who is to blame for lack of a better word?

      Is it Kobe for signing a business deal?

      Is it the airlines for not taking "one of their own?"

      Is it as bad as Michael Vick doing an Alpo commercial?

      Just curious?
      Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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      • #4
        Allen Iverson plays in Turkey. Is that a problem?

        "Turkish Deal Will Make Kobe the Face of Oppression and Injustice" and "Kobe Bryant's Direct Flight to Inhumanity," announced the website of the Armenian Youth Federation.
        Blah? I wasn't aware Turkish AIRLINES was killing Armenians.


        You know what, **** Armenians. I can't stand Armenians. Most of them are whiners while simultaneously being cocky and very racist.

        And **** the Kardashians as well. They're Armenians.
        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • #5
          Kobe has to take some responsibility for his actions. I would want to knoww all that I could know. I wonder if he takes people's word about his investments. He may die destitute.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
            Kobe has to take some responsibility for his actions. I would want to knoww all that I could know. I wonder if he takes people's word about his investments. He may die destitute.
            It's an airline! An AIRLINE! What the hell? Armenians flip out if anyone has anything to do with Turkey? Do they want the US to embargo Turkey?
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • #7
              Maybe.
              I was looking at the American involvement. It's known that they don't get along. Turkey has installed embargoes in the past.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8


                The US government does not recognize the Armenian genocide having taken place.

                The bill has been opposed by the Republic of Turkey, as well as the administration of former U.S. President George W. Bush. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged US lawmakers to drop the resolution. She said: "I continue to believe that the passage of the ... Armenian genocide resolution would severely harm our relationships with Turkey".[10] While a candidate, U.S. President Barack Obama stated that he "stood with the Armenian American community in calling for Turkey's acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide",[11] but his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton assured Turkey that the White House opposes the resolution. [12]
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #9
                  But hey, it's just an airlines.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #10
                    Of course the Europeans are retarded about it:

                    The first person convicted in a court of law for denying the Armenian genocide is Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, found guilty of racial discrimination by a Swiss district court in Lausanne in March 2007. Perinçek appealed the verdict. After the court's decision, he said, "I defend my right to freedom of expression." "I have not denied genocide because there was no genocide," he argued. Ferai Tinç, a foreign affairs columnist with Turkey's Hürriyet newspaper, added, "we find these type of [penal] articles against freedom of opinion dangerous because we are struggling in our country to achieve freedom of thought."[119] In December 2007, the Swiss Federal Court confirmed the sentence given to Perinçek.[120]

                    In October, 2008 the Swiss court ruled that three Turks were guilty of racial discrimination after having claimed that the Armenian Genocide was an "international lie." The European representative of the Party of Turkish Workers, Ali Mercan, was sentenced to pay a fine of 4,500 Swiss francs ($3,900), two others were ordered to pay 3,600 Swiss francs.[121] In October 2010, the Swiss Federal Court confirmed the verdict.[122]
                    Really?
                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                      But hey, it's just an airlines.
                      Exactly it's a ****ing airline. Kobe isn't the spokesperson of the entire nation of Turkey! It's a freaking company!

                      Whiney Armenians...
                      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                      • #12
                        Turkish Airlines is also in the Star Alliance (an airline alliance) with United Airlines! Where's the protests at United?
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                          Exactly it's a ****ing airline. Kobe isn't the spokesperson of the entire nation of Turkey! It's a freaking company!

                          Whiney Armenians...
                          Think Turkey. It's a whole other mindset. He IS speaking for the nation. Get your mind out of the USA, although you don't have to get it that far out.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #14
                            This is the stupidest thing I've seen in a while.

                            ACK!
                            Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                            • #15
                              well said

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