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  • For the people that ranked Oregon ahead of TCU, what are you going to do when they move to the Big East?
    Did you even notice what conference had the best bowl season? It wasn't Big 10 or PAC 10.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • When TCU moves to the Big East, it'll be like 2 years from now. I'm sure we'll have other teams we are ranking .

      However, I believe we definitely saw the two best teams in college football on Monday and that's why they are 1 & 2 in my rankings.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • TCU hasn't lost in two years. How do you figure?
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
          For the people that ranked Oregon ahead of TCU, what are you going to do when they move to the Big East?
          Did you even notice what conference had the best bowl season? It wasn't Big 10 or PAC 10.
          Same thing I do now: evaluate what they've done and against what competition they've done it, and compare that to what other teams have done and against whom.

          Clearly the SEC had the best bowl season. It brought in the most payout money, both absolutely ($54 million, with the Big 10's $49 million in second) and per conference member ($4.52 million to the Big 10's $4.44 million), won a fifth straight national championship, and went 4-1 in the major games. That the SEC's minor bowl contingent (all from the East, incidentally) did poorly doesn't really change any of that. Of course, that's to be expected when the matchups include Big East #5 (and co-champion) vs. SEC #10, ACC #2 vs. SEC #5, and even CUSA #1 vs. SEC #9.

          Of course, I'm sure you mean the MWC's little 4-1 record. Just don't peek behind the curtain to see that two of those came against the #7 teams in the ACC and CUSA. Just focus on that Rose Bowl.

          Just for kicks, I did the numbers on the SEC West alone: $45 million ($7.5 million per team), a 4-1 record, all in major January bowls, and a national championship. Clearly, the SEC West had a better bowl season than anybody, until the time comes to split the money with those damn freeloaders from the East.

          Here's the full rundown (payout data from this place):

          SEC: $54,275,000/$4,523,000
          Big 10: $48,787,500/$4,435,000
          Pac 10: $41,112,500/$4,111,000
          Big 12: $30,937,500/$2,578,000
          ACC: $28,980,000/$2,415,000
          Big East: $23,730,000/$2,966,000

          For comparison:

          MWC: $21,350,000/$2,372,000
          WAC: $3,037,500/$338,000

          That Boise-Nevada game made a bit of a difference to the MWC and WAC, to say the least.
          Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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          • Try Bowl wins, not money, oh jaded one.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • See, even SEC fans know that the SEC is all about money. Of course, $4.5 mil is a lot of money for ****holes like Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi.

              ACK!
              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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              • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                Try Bowl wins, not money, oh jaded one.
                Originally posted by Solomwi View Post
                Of course, I'm sure you mean the MWC's little 4-1 record. Just don't peek behind the curtain to see that two of those came against the #7 teams in the ACC and CUSA. Just focus on that Rose Bowl.
                Let's not do any reading there Sloww . Also the money means the relative status of the bowl games and the opponents.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
                  See, even SEC fans know that the SEC is all about money. Of course, $4.5 mil is a lot of money for ****holes like Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi.

                  ACK!
                  Have you seen statehouse budgets?! $4.5 Mil is a lot to anyone right now!
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                    Let's not do any reading there Sloww . Also the money means the relative status of the bowl games and the opponents.

                    Practice what you preach. All he spoke of was monetary. I was talking about Bowl wins. Are you following yet?
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • AGAIN:
                      Of course, I'm sure you mean the MWC's little 4-1 record. Just don't peek behind the curtain to see that two of those came against the #7 teams in the ACC and CUSA. Just focus on that Rose Bowl.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                        Practice what you preach. All he spoke of was monetary. I was talking about Bowl wins. Are you following yet?
                        You're an idiot. Besides what Imran pointed out, twice, I mentioned the national title and the 4-1 record in major bowls (and I got that wrong, as it was actually 5-1). If you were only talking about wins, though, surely even you can recognize that 5>4, and therefore agree with me that the SEC had the best bowl season of any conference.
                        Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                        • Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
                          See, even SEC fans know that the SEC is all about money. Of course, $4.5 mil is a lot of money for ****holes like Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi.

                          ACK!
                          The bowls are all about money. That's why it makes sense to consider money earned when determining who had the best bowl season.
                          Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                          • Solomwi is very wise.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                              For the people that ranked Oregon ahead of TCU, what are you going to do when they move to the Big East?
                              Did you even notice what conference had the best bowl season? It wasn't Big 10 or PAC 10.
                              My ranking logic goes like this:

                              Auburn and Oregon were ranked #1 and #2 prior to the NCG. Based on the overwhelming consensus, that ranking seemed right. Since one or the other had to win the NCG, a nail-biter of a finish doesn't, IMO, diminish the rankings of either. As for TCU, they had one common foe this season with Oregon, which was Oregon State. Having watched both games, I can say without hesitation that TCU had a tougher time with the Beavers than the Ducks did. Of course there are lots of factors such as the point in their respective schedules when they played them, but based on those results, I have to give a slight edge to Oregon.

                              Honestly, I think that Auburn, Oregon and TCU could all beat each other on any given day, depending on the circumstances.
                              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                              • Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
                                See, even SEC fans know that the SEC is all about money. Of course, $4.5 mil is a lot of money for ****holes like Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi.

                                ACK!
                                Recognizing what you were going for here, the second sentence still got me thinking about the split inside the conference. I don't know how any other conference does it, but the SEC essentially splits each bowl pot 14 ways. The participating school gets a double share, while the other schools and the conference each get a single share. Here are the bowl takes for each school, obviously in millions:

                                Alabama - $4.18
                                Arkansas - $5.09
                                Auburn - $5.09
                                Florida - $4.10
                                Georgia - $4.00
                                Kentucky - $3.94
                                LSU - $4.13
                                Mississippi State - $4.07
                                Ole Miss - $3.88
                                South Carolina - $4.05
                                Tennessee - $3.99
                                Vanderbilt - $3.88

                                By state, where there's more than one program (including Vanderbilt, even though it's private):

                                Alabama - $9.27
                                Mississippi - $7.95
                                Tennessee - $7.87
                                Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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