College Football '10 - Conference switching chaos!!

[Boris Godunov]

Are the recruiting services that make those rankings the same thing as the recruitment firm that will handle ND's coach search?

[DanS]

In large part the recruiting services go by who has offered a recruit in order to do their rankings. That's not a bad way to go about it.

[Boris Godunov]

I think most people know by now that Drake is completely unfazed by anyone complaining that he's too insulting.

[Drake Tungsten]

Are the recruiting services that make those rankings the same thing as the recruitment firm that will handle ND's coach search?

No. Scout.com and Rivals.com are the two main "recruiting services" that follow recruiting news for college athletics. They don't have anything to do with recruitment firms that search for coaches and the like. Think of the former as specialized media organizations and the latter as headhunting firms.

I think most people know by now that Drake is completely unfazed by anyone complaining that he's too insulting.

I only insult people when they deserve it, which makes it easier to remain unfazed.

[Drake Tungsten]

But that's not saying much, when the two best college coaches were at the school.

Bear Bryant and Bud Wilkinson didn't coach at Notre Dame.

[DanS]

But that's not saying much, when the two best college coaches were at the school.

Bear Bryant and Bud Wilkinson didn't coach at Notre Dame.

Correct.

[Boris Godunov]

No. Scout.com and Rivals.com are the two main "recruiting services" that follow recruiting news for college athletics. They don't have anything to do with recruitment firms that search for coaches and the like. Think of the former as specialized media organizations and the latter as headhunting firms.

Right, I knew the latter were headhunting firms--that's an industry I was in while in NYC, although of course it wasn't sports-oriented. But the big executive recruiting firms like Korn/Ferry, Stanton Chase, etc. all put out market research papers, trend analysis and the like, so I wasn't sure if the recruitment rankings were sort of like that. Honestly, if they were, it might give a bit more credibility to the numbers, since it seems to me the media organizations don't really have much of a stake in their rankings being correct. Recruiting firms are a bit more concerned with track records and reputation.

I only insult people when they deserve it, which makes it easier to remain unfazed.

What if someone confessed it turned him on? That could faze someone, easily.

[Drake Tungsten]

since it seems to me the media organizations don't really have much of a stake in their rankings being correct.

They really don't. The rankings are just a way to draw page views and subscriptions (both sites charge money for premium memberships that allow hardcore fans to get recruiting news sooner).

What if someone confessed it turned him on?

I can't believe Sloww admitted that to you...

[DanS]

ND will consult the headhunters as needed. However, if the headhunters are used a lot in the search, then there's something wrong with the process.

I expect that ND has been researching candidates for the past year and that the list of potential hires is small.

[Drake Tungsten]

The headhunters are generally less valuable in picking candidates than they are in making sure the process goes smoothly.

[Boris Godunov]

I can't believe Sloww admitted that to you...

Something about you making his heart all aflutter?

However, if the headhunters are used a lot in the search, then there's something wrong with the process.

Generally, I'd say that's a good rule of thumb for any high-level executive recruitment where the pool of potential candidates is small and the hiring organization very prominent, yes. Recruiters are usually pretty ****ty at really understanding what a client needs. Usually it's "hmm, this guy's resume seems to have all the right words... I'll send it to the client... Oh, you guys think he looks good? (YES! FINALLY GOT ONE!) I'll set up a meeting..."

[Ming]

I think most people know by now that Drake is completely unfazed by anyone complaining that he's too insulting.

I'm not complaining... just pointing out his lack of maturity. The fact that is completely unfazed by it is just more proof. Real adults have discussions without responding like little children throwing insults around. He actually has some solid opinions sometimes, but they tend to get lost in his childish tirades.
It's tough to take him very seriously when his typical response is to call somebody a ****...

[Drake Tungsten]

Something about you making his heart all aflutter?

Why do you think we keep fighting?

It's tough to take him very seriously when his typical response is to call somebody a ****...

If you don't want to be called a ****, then stop acting like one. A good start would be to stop calling opinions "facts".

[Ming]

If you don't want to be called a ****, then stop acting like one.

A typical response from you... Something you would expect to hear at a grade school.
Thanks for continuing to prove my point.

[SlowwHand]

In thinking back on the earlier exchange, I'm not so sure I wasn't DanS'd.