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Its always an option, but by that time we had 7+ people voting for Snoopy 2 or 3 - and that ongoing valid vote means we're switching to a new set of stats. If you wanna add onto that, state your case and ask people to vote. If you want last years stats, ask people to vote.
If you wanna ask people to vote on all categories, ask them. I already explained this, no one (but you?) expressed support for last years stats. We'd be using those stats if several people hadn't complained, they wanna go with sabremetrics and they proposed a set of stats to be used and 9 people have already expressed support for their stats. What do you want me to do, tell them to **** off because we're using last years stats?
They weren't first, last years stats were posted first - and so what? They did a good job selling their candidate, they even convinced me. You haven't even proposed a set of stats and you're complaining because they did?
But you didn't, it aint my fault if you dont sell your idea.
And we're voting on that, two versions have 5 and 4 votes - once we establish the winner we're going with it. If people wanna add cats, they can go right ahead and make a proposal. You haven't even done that...
9 people have voted for sabremetrics. You want me to suspend that vote because you want a vote on all categories? Where do you keep getting this idea that people cant vote for what they want?
Then vote.
Thats the way we've always done it, the commish sets up the basic stats and then people provide their ideas and the stats get modified to reflect the will of the managers.
He doesn't, you need to read the thread before you keep laying this at his feet. He was one of several people who wanted to go with sabremetrics, I asked them to post their ideas and they did, and people started voting on the version they liked best. If you like one of those versions with some tweaking, say so.
So we have 1 vote for starting all over, sell your idea now.
Why was it an opton 6 hours ago then.
If that's the case why not just vote on ALL categories and see if that's true.
I submit that Snoopy's categories were favored because they were posted first.
If I had come up with 3 lists, posted them first and authoritatively had the self-confidence to tell everyone to vote for 1 of my 3 categories I am sure that I would have had 9 out of 12 people vote for 1 of my 3 categories.
Plus there is debate about which ones within Snoopy's group should be accepted. That proves that there is no unison within Snoopy's ballot.
Why not just list all the categories and let the chips fall where they may. Why should we assume that 6 or 7 of Snoopy's are "in" and vote on 2 or 3 others. I think EVERYONE deserves a vote on ALL the categories. Why are we against letting people vote.
I am just asking for a up or down vote on each category.
I don't think it is fair to have the categories pre-grouped by one person and then voted on in a block.
I don't think Snoopy or I should speak for the group. I think an open vote of all the categories should speak for the group.
I prefer not to vote on a pre-determined ballot by one person. I think in a group of equal members that ALL the members should vote on ALL the categories.
EPW is in as our 12th - and he gets to pick first
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