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  • #61
    Originally posted by PLATO
    Rose is continuosly not given his props on his hitting...
    No one says that... but the contention is with "best hitter". He's far from that.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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    • #62
      I saw an ESPN poll and I was shocked at the result on Vick.
      An overwhelming majority (56% compared to 2-3% on all other options) wanted 12-18 months of jail and permabanned.
      I just thought I drew hard lines.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #63
        I've read lots of news stories, including many that quote current NFL GMs, that say that once Vick is eligible to play, there will be plenty of interest in him from a number of teams.
        "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
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        • #64
          Thank god the teams I root for have stable qb's

          NFC: Rams
          AFC: Colts

          (and now, I guess I semi follow the texans, since I live in houston)

          then again, all it takes is one play to end a career, so youneverknow.

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          • #65
            *I know Vick hasn't said this, nor has his attorneys...yet....

            As a defense attorney, it really pisses me off when I hear people on tv (either media, sports figures, NAACP, etc) say (from espn.com) that:

            White said the Atlanta chapter supports Vick's decision to accept a plea bargain if it's in his best interest, but he questioned the credibility of Vick's co-defendants, saying an admission of guilt might be more about cutting losses than the truth.

            "At this point, you're not looking at guilt or innocence," White said, referring to the possible harsher sentence Vick could have received had he taken his case to trial and been found guilty. "You're thinking, 'What I better do is cut my losses and take a plea.' But if he saw this as the best thing to do at this point for his future, then I think he made the correct choice."

            White said he regretted that the plea deal will mean all the facts of the case might never be known.
            Oh, so he's not really guilty, he's just going to plead to cut his losses. I hate ****ing ***** defendants with that attitude. And I've had many, my last 500 or so clients were mostly crackheads/dealers. Either you're guilty or not guilty, mother****er. If you say you're not guilty, then go to ****ing trial, you ****ing *****.

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            • #66
              No really asleepatthewheel, don't hold back.
              Tell us how you really feel...
              Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
              RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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              • #67
                Yep... if he was innocent and not total pond scum, he would go to trial. Plea Bargin... GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!

                The rest is all media spin...
                Keep on Civin'
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                • #68
                  It's official. According to radio reports on ESPN and The Score, Vick has pleaded to conspiracy only. No admission on gambling or direct involvement with the deaths of fighting dogs.
                  Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                  RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                  • #69
                    Here's a link to the story at inrich.com, which includes PDFs of both the actual plea agreement and a Summary of Facts document from the court.
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                    RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Berzerker
                      why didnt you sign up for fantasy football?
                      I don't come to this board that often, and came back like halfway through the draft.

                      Gonna have to wait til baseball season 2008.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                        It's official. According to radio reports on ESPN and The Score, Vick has pleaded to conspiracy only. No admission on gambling or direct involvement with the deaths of fighting dogs.

                        what a cop out on the part of the prosecuters, maybe the NFL will have a little more backbone, the things that the other defendents were ready to testify that Vick personally took part in, the hands on torture of dogs, and he pleads guilty to conspiracy only.

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                        • #72
                          Isn't there a Virginia prosecutor still thinking about filing state charges?
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                          • #73
                            Yes.
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                            RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                            • #74
                              Vick suspended indefinitely by NFL

                              NEW YORK -- The NFL has suspended Michael Vick indefinitely.

                              On Friday, Vick filed his plea agreement in federal court admitting to conspiracy in a dogfighting ring and agreeing that the enterprise included killing pit bulls and gambling. He denied making side bets on the fights, but admitted to bankrolling them.

                              Friday afternoon, a letter to Vick from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said, in part:

                              "Your admitted conduct was not only illegal, but also cruel and reprehensible. Your team, the NFL, and NFL fans have all been hurt by your actions."

                              "Your plea agreement and the plea agreements of your co-defendants also demonstrate your significant involvement in illegal gambling. Even if you personally did not place bets, as you contend, your actions in funding the betting and your association with illegal gambling both violate the terms of your NFL Player Contract and expose you to corrupting influences in derogation of one of the most fundamental responsibilities of an NFL player."

                              "You have engaged in conduct detrimental to the welfare of the NFL and have violated the league's Personal Conduct Policy."

                              "I will review the status of your suspension following the conclusion of the legal proceedings. As part of that review, I will take into account a number of factors, including the resolution of any other charges that may be brought against you, whether in Surry County, Virginia, or other jurisdictions, your conduct going forward, the specifics of the sentence imposed by Judge Hudson and any related findings he might make, and the extent to which you are truthful and cooperative with law enforcement and league staff who are investigating these matters."

                              "I have advised the Falcons that, with my decision today, they are no longer prohibited from acting and are now free to assert any claims or remedies available to them under the Collective Bargaining Agreement or your NFL Player Contract."
                              Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin
                              Iain Banks missed deadline due to Civ | The eyes are the groin of the head. - Dwight Schrute.
                              One more turn .... One more turn .... | WWTSD

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                              • #75
                                Roger Goodell made public a private message?




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