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  • #286
    Originally posted by Guynemer
    Where were these special teams in games 1-4?
    Do you really think it has to do with your special teams being good, or the team that can't win on the road to save its life being mind-numbingly awful?

    You give Detroit too much credit here -- today's game is all road-Flames after the 1st period. I've seen 43 games of these this year, it's par for the course.

    Powerhouses like Columbus win more decisive games against the road flames than this, so don't be too proud.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #287
      Flubber, comments on tonights game? I think you should look at the shift chart before you deflect blame away from Playfair.

      Look at Amonte and Zyuzin's powerplay time in particular.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #288
        Originally posted by Asher

        All the stats in the world doesn't mean a thing when you're loyal to your friends, as he is.
        Whatever you say, sweetheart.


        What's happening today has absolutely nothing to do with skill. If you think the Flames are playing with skill today, well...let's leave it at that.


        Ummm... they're getting outskilled, obviously. They're also getting outhit and outhustled, which is typically more important. But outskilled nonetheless.
        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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        • #289
          Originally posted by Asher

          Do you really think it has to do with your special teams being good, or the team that can't win on the road to save its life being mind-numbingly awful?
          I'm talking more of the Detroit PK; even in games 1 and 2, the Flames were nigh-unstoppable on the PP. But the Wings have stepped it up today.
          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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          • #290
            Originally posted by Guynemer
            I'm talking more of the Detroit PK; even in games 1 and 2, the Flames were nigh-unstoppable on the PP. But the Wings have stepped it up today.
            Did you type that as they gave up 2 awful shorthanded chances?

            You aren't watching the game closely if you think Detroit is a far more talented team than Calgary.

            Do you think the team Calgary is icing today has anything in common skill-wise to the ones in Calgary the other day?
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #291
              Read a little more carefully, mon ami. The Wings penalty kill looks reborn.
              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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              • #292
                Originally posted by Guynemer
                Read a little more carefully, mon ami. The Wings penalty kill looks reborn.
                Here I thought special teams, in general, referred to both situations of odd-men.

                Yes, the PK has been better, but Calgary's PP has been MUCH much, worse. And that had little to do with the PK, they just can't connect passes.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #293
                  Originally posted by Asher

                  You aren't watching the game closely if you think Detroit is a far more talented team than Calgary.
                  Originally posted by Guynemer

                  Ummm... they're getting outskilled, obviously. They're also getting outhit and outhustled, which is typically more important. But outskilled nonetheless.
                  "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                  "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                  • #294
                    For example, did you see Phaneuf's play just there on the PP? Nothing to do with the PK.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #295
                      Originally posted by Guynemer
                      I read what you said, I disagreed with it, and you quoted it again.

                      indeed.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #296
                        Originally posted by Asher
                        Here I thought special teams, in general, referred to both situations of odd-men.
                        Originally posted by Guynemer
                        I'm talking more of the Detroit PK; even in games 1 and 2, the Flames were nigh-unstoppable on the PP. But the Wings have stepped it up today.
                        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                        • #297
                          Originally posted by Asher



                          Do you think the team Calgary is icing today has anything in common skill-wise to the ones in Calgary the other day?

                          Since they are identical players 2 days later I would say that the skills (ie talent level) are identical
                          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                          • #298
                            Originally posted by Guynemer
                            Where were these special teams in games 1-4?


                            Clearly all that wall-smacking is taking its toll.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #299
                              Originally posted by Flubber
                              Since they are identical players 2 days later I would say that the skills (ie talent level) are identical
                              Some days it doesn't show due to other factors, which is why it's not possible to rule based on one game.

                              Detroit is totally outplaying Calgary today, but it has little to do with skill.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #300
                                Originally posted by Asher

                                Where were these special teams in games 1-4?


                                Clearly all that wall-smacking is taking its toll.
                                I clarified that I was refering to the PK, then you made a comment about the PP. Pay attention.



                                Originally posted by Asher
                                Detroit is totally outplaying Calgary today, but it has little to do with skill.
                                Honestly, I don't get it. Why so defensive about the Wings being more skilled? Clearly it doesn't mean they win all the time. On most nights, Calgary will outwork and outhustle them, and that's why they are so evenly matched.
                                "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                                "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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