Fantasy Hockey - Playoff Race

[Asher]

Can someone remind me of the terms of the Tingkai/Flubber bet again?

[cinch]

Originally posted by Michael Daumen


Smyth is a great player, but you're talking about a franchise that dealt Gretzky and Messier. Why would any player be immune?

I'm not saying he should be immune. I've seen the Oilers management do enough over the years to not be quite that foolish.

I just don't like the last-minute-shotgun nature of this arrangement. Either you make a decision and shop Smyth for the best deal, as well as Sykora and a few others, and you rebuild in earnest. Half-assed attempts will yield the appropriate results.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher
Can someone remind me of the terms of the Tingkai/Flubber bet again?

he bet that the Flames would be in the bottom Eight teams in the league in terms of points.

The winner gets to pick a signature line for the loser which the loser displays for the duration of the playoffs IIRC

Currently the the cut off is St Louis/Florida with 63 points. The Flames have 75 . . . The fat lady is into the chorus on this one

[Asher]

That was such a ridiculous bet.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by cinch


I'm not saying he should be immune. I've seen the Oilers management do enough over the years to not be quite that foolish.

I just don't like the last-minute-shotgun nature of this arrangement. Either you make a decision and shop Smyth for the best deal, as well as Sykora and a few others, and you rebuild in earnest. Half-assed attempts will yield the appropriate results.

I heard a report that they had quietly collected offers and put them in the drawer. At the last minute when an agreement with Smyth was not getting done, they called the Isles (best offer left as other teams may have moved on) and said it's on.

And what makes you think they didn't shop Sykora?

[Asher]

TSN analysts are blaming Calgary for the Smyth debacle. Apparently our signing of Tanguay ruined everything.

[Asher]

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[Asher]

mad skillz

[Ninot]

Dan Barnes is genious!

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
That was such a ridiculous bet.

Well, the bet made sense at the time. Even you were panicking.

But


It was the worst bet I ever made. Seems like the minute I made the bet, the Flames went on a winning streak.

@ myself.

And I hate to admit this with Asher around, but the Flames are looking a lot better than in previous years. They're scoring a lot more. They've hit dry patches where they have to change their strategy. And Kippersoft has struggled at time which is actually a good thing for the team cause the team is not just relying on him to win them games.

But being better than last year just means the Flames will likely get through to the second round. The competition is much stronger int he west this year.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
Well, the bet made sense at the time. Even you were panicking.

That's nonsense, I had my doubts about the coach (which I still do). That's not the same about panicking.

[Asher]

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Edmonton/2007/02/28/3676809-sun.html

Haymakers from Georges
By ROBERT TYCHKOWSKI -- Sun Media

On a day when Edmonton Oilers management was already taking serious lumps in the wake of Ryan Smyth's trade, Georges Laraque threw a few verbal haymakers of his own.

Discarded by the Oilers last summer when the team decided enforcers were no longer necessary in the new NHL, Laraque pointed to all the injured Oilers they've been scraping off the ice in his absence, and the fact that the most exciting team in the NHL wants him badly, and figured it was time to laugh last.

"Look at all the concussions the Oilers have had this year," the NHL's heavyweight champion said in the lobby of his Edmonton hotel after being traded from Phoenix to Pittsburgh. "And they were from tough guys, not just physical players, but legitimate tough guys, taking advantage of their skilled players.

"(Not having a policeman) makes a big difference. That's why, as much as people say you don't need it anymore, the Oilers are the biggest example of how much you need a tough guy."

Ales Hemsky, Jarret Stoll, Fernando Pisani, Joffrey Lupul and rookie defenceman Tom Gilbert have all been lost to concussions this season. Rookie defenceman Ladislav Smid limped off the ice Sunday in Minnesota after Derek Boogaard stuck a knee out on him.

You survey the damage, in the past and the potential for more in the future, and wonder if the $1 million a year, no-trade contract that split him and the Oilers might have been a wise investment.

"All you have to do is take a look at what the Oilers are going through this year," said the six-foot-three, 245 pounder. "You can see (letting him go) was obviously a mistake. They took a gamble and lost."

He says current Oilers have admitted as much, privately, anyway.

"Guys on the team have told me. You don't know what you have until it's gone. I mean, why would you want to be a team in this division without having a guy who can respond to Boogaard?"

Laraque believes it's more than just a case of opposition tough guys sticking out their chests because there's nobody here to stop them - he thinks they're making a point of punishing Edmonton for its stance on enforcers.

"The worst thing the Oilers could have done was to say you don't need tough guys in the NHL anymore. That was like hanging a big bulls-eye on the team.

"All those tough guys are saying, 'Oh yeah, you're trying to get rid of our jobs? We're going to show you how much you need a tough guy.' And they play Edmonton even harder.

"You look at what's going on there. If Edmonton doesn't lose all those (injured) players, they make the playoffs this year."

Laraque's feud with Edmonton's brass runs so deeply that he came within a whisker of going to the Calgary Flames out of spite.

"Calgary was very attractive," said Laraque, whose no-trade deal in Phoenix allowed him to pick his destination.

"Not really liking the way things ended in Edmonton, the best place to go would have been Calgary, definitely." Laraque spent part of Monday night's Calgary-Phoenix game talking with GM Darryl Sutter.

"It was closer than a lot of people thought," said Laraque. "For a while, in my head, I said I was going. I was really fantasizing about wearing Flames red and coming to Edmonton and showing the people who thought the Oilers made a good move by getting rid of me."

But the opportunity to ride shotgun for Sidney Crosby is too good to pass up. This is Dave Semenko and Wayne Gretzky II.

"That's pretty much how you can compare it," he said. "When the Great One called me to come to Phoenix I couldn't turn that down. Well, this is another Great One, who's playing right now."

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher

That's nonsense, I had my doubts about the coach (which I still do). That's not the same about panicking.

Doubts? Come on, you were in major panic mode screaming for the Flames to fire him.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
I was really fantasizing about wearing Flames red and coming to Edmonton and showing the people who thought the Oilers made a good move by getting rid of me."[/q]

And then he came to his sense and joined the team that had a much better chance of winning the Cup.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
Doubts? Come on, you were in major panic mode screaming for the Flames to fire him.

I still am...