370,000 babies will be born today

[Hauldren Collider]

In many places, it's called brides for sale.

Only $200! All proceeds go to finding homes for homeless girls!

[MikeH]

Why do they need to be married in the US? If they love each other, and want to spend their lives together, what difference is it that it be in the US... Unless it's all only about a green card... Is that really all you care about? You seem to make it sound like all the help won't be "paid back" unless there is a US green card or citizenship involved.

In many places, it's called brides for sale.

Exactly. If it's just about them being happy who cares where they live together?

[Lancer]

So she doesn't end up like Safronia Mills.

[MOBIUS]

The sad fact is most of those babies are going to be born to the poorest people on Earth and then they're going to not be able to adequately feed, cloth, house, or educate those children. Maybe poor people shouldn't have children until they can actually take care of them.

Oh, and, yes, I give money to charity and the taxes I pay help all sorts of people plus I've already done my public service time unlike most people.

I bet Lancer is a Catholic - that's why countries like the Philippines are in such a mess in the first place...

[Hauldren Collider]

Killing two birds with one troll

[Dinner]

No dannubis, I'll tell you this, MikeH is wrong about one thing. Helping others is not about self. If its about "I" this aint it. And you are wrong about something too. I treated Aeson like gold. Made his dreams come true.

Helping other might not be about you but constantly, and I do mean constantly, bragging about it really is all about you.

[Wezil]

I bet Lancer is a Catholic - that's why countries like the Philippines are in such a mess in the first place...

I was intrigued by his business but figured it would take too long to beat the Catholic out of the girl.

[MikeH]

Helping other might not be about you but constantly, and I do mean constantly, bragging about it really is all about you.

That's what I meant.

[Guynemer]

Panda.

[MikeH]

So she doesn't end up like Safronia Mills.

Which would be your fault, since you introduced them, so it's about assuaging your own guilt should something go wrong?

It's no surprise people in a relatively new relationship don't want to plan for it failing is it?

[Dinner]

I want them to get married in the US.

You just want them there so they can sponsor tons more of your wife's family members to the US so you can sit on your ass in the PI collecting money from the people who actually do work. Stop being lazy and do it yourself or stop complaining about how others choose to live. Unless, of course, they're welfare cases then complain away.

[Dinner]

Yes! That's true. Still, the reason we paid her education is that s h e is f a m i l y. Can we not advise family?

Not if they don't want it so shut up and go away.

[Lancer]

Safronia Mills married a Canadian guy in the Philippines. His name is Terry Wayne Raymond Mills. When she got pregnant, he abandoned Safronia and his unborn daughter, Karen Mills in the Phils and left for Canada. Here they stat\rved until the good folks at Apolyton, 17 years later, built them a home and put the daughter, Karen Mills, through school.

That's why we advise family gals not to get married in the Philippines. There is no hope here.

[Dinner]

Why do they need to be married in the US? If they love each other, and want to spend their lives together, what difference is it that it be in the US... Unless it's all only about a green card... Is that really all you care about? You seem to make it sound like all the help won't be "paid back" unless there is a US green card or citizenship involved.

In many places, it's called brides for sale.

It's all about the Green Card. Isn't that obvious? Personally, I don't blame Aeson for doing what he is doing the way he is doing it. In the military there were tons of guys who married foreign girls only to see them divorce the second they could and still keep citizenship. If she loves him and actually wants to spend the rest of her life with him then it won't matter but if it was only about a green card then it will matter in which case he is better off.

[Lancer]

Not if they don't want it so shut up and go away.

I was never told by her that she does not want my advise. Why would she? We put her through college, she ran our house while we were away, we are close.