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Reading is key. Poor guy, nye. Sometimes I feel bad for taking you to task, because I don't think you can help it.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
What part of that sentence was insulting or degrading?
Look, nye, I've destroyed you enough recently. Why do you keep coming back and asking for more? Do you just like the drama you create?
I make no excuses or denials for who I am or what I say. Everyone should know that.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
It's pretty clear what you were doing, and it involves degrading Lancer.
Now here you are claiming innocence.
It further highlights how funny it is when you claim others are being dishonest.
How is obvious tongue-in-cheek satire of Philippine home building degrading to Lancer?
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
But if you build an expensive looking home in a 3rd world country you will find lots of poor peasants attempting to pimp their daughters to you in the hopes that you will funnel wealth to them. Surely, that has to count for something? I mean if you can't exploit of the less fortunate then who can you exploit?
Just because I'm not convinced that you know what "degrading" means, notyoueither, allow me to define this for you:
corrupting: harmful to the mind or morals; "corrupt judges and their corrupting influence"; "the vicious and degrading cult of violence"
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
But if you build an expensive looking home in a 3rd world country you will find lots of poor peasants attempting to pimp their daughters to you in the hopes that you will funnel wealth to them. Surely, that has to count for something? I mean if you can't exploit of the less fortunate then who can you exploit?
It would be pretty rich if nye finds the concept of building elaborate homes in the Phils degrading to the people who live there.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
It wasn't so much the building of homes which is exploitative but the abusing of the sexual exploitation of the impoverished native inhabitants which is so exploitive. Being a loser who can't get a woman in his own country so he tries to go to an impoverished 3rd world country where he can use his relative wealth to try to barter for poon. That's exploitation as surely as if I was attempting to economically exploit their labor even if they want to be exploited out of hopes that such exploitation would result in economic gain for their families. It's still exploitation and so immoral; twice so for being sexual exploitation.
BTW I think some of yours and MOBIUS's comments in this thread go too far. If Asher is distancing himself from some of the things you say regarding the Phillipines stuff I think it's a good indicator you've probably gone too far.
Yeah, you're right, I did go too far as it did involve some speculation on my part and basically an attack on a 3rd party - so for that I'm sorry.
I guess I went overboard because, basically, Lancer appears to be an extremely nasty piece of work who seems to be at the centre of very sinister and sharp practices in the Philippines...
MOBIUS, with all due respect, that's your opinion, based on nothing other than your interpretations. However, I'm genuinely impressed that you acknowledge a mistake.
You may not care and that's fine. The fact remains.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
You know what Mob? I keep going back in my own mind to Oerdin and the effort to get him a taste of home. Its funny, but maybe Sloww contributed, I'd have to check my sheets back in Oregon, but I don't see anyone else here who might have. Funny, but only decent people contribute to worthy causes like that, or the two houses we built for poor people, and by we I don't mean you Mob, but Sloww contributed, of that I'm sure. Good people. There were dozens that contributed. Too bad there's not enough left to stand up for Apolyton.
See, that's the funny thing Lancer, in your earlier post about Oerdin's care package, you said you did it without expecting anything in return. But again you lie, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to bask in some kind of reflected glory by bringing it up again and again. That is your return, and you know that well enough - which is basically what makes you such a creep...
All these pretend do-gooding things are just a means to an end to you - ulterior motives.
Those houses for example, taking advantage of the goodwill of Poly to get in better with the locals, no doubt...
As for my not contributing, frankly IIRC I didn't like Oerdin much before he went to Iraq, so why would I? Especially when I didn't agree with the war. Still, at least Iraq opened Oerdin's eyes...
As for your houses, I'm not that gullible thanks.
I do enough stuff 'giving back' within my own interests without having to blow my own trumpet from the rooftops, thank you very much. So I feel more than satisfied that I am a decent and good person by that benchmark.
MOBIUS, with all due respect, that's your opinion, based on nothing other than your interpretations.
It's based on an accumulation of knowledge gained over the past number of years. Individually, I don't think those of us that harboured doubts about him really wanted to tackle our suspicions head on - it was only Lancer's vicious attempted character assassination of Aeson that brought things to a head and things started falling into place...
However, I'm genuinely impressed that you acknowledge a mistake.
You may not care and that's fine. The fact remains.
I make a mistake, I admit to it. I went too far in once aspect of Lancer's life and I hold my hands up to it.
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