putin can have the baltics. and finland.

[Bereta_Eder]

Ok not so sure about finland, but definitely the baltics.

tsirpas put out a book

https://www.public.gr/product/books/greek-books/anthropology-social-sciences/politics/ithaki/2092802?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=S_ENTER_Books_Titloi_2_NB%2F&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19946253568&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt62_8puXkQMVvDsGAB0VljrrEAAYAiAAEgJi9_D_BwE

and he's coming back!!!!!!!!!



harrr.. he describes in every detail what has happened. it is 760 pages and I've been reading non stop but can't possibly finish it all in one go


things to take away.

the asuterity measures were by no means the only way. that was known a logn time ago but re-ivented.

germany is a crap country that rewrote the rules as it saw fit. of coruse the same 10 fold is the imf.

well merkel was sort of ok as was hollande but schoible and reshling were true sociopaths that if they had their way they could have desptryed the UE. completely. does germany have some sort of european desruction fetisch? some in that little country do I'm sure.

putin was the most ok dude of all compltely logical and in great relatoin with merkel. which goes to show that what happened in ukriane was a massive step back. and europe was not in competition with russia no at all! (putin also had excellent relations wiuth greece at that time) so who was responsible for the mayem? maybe putin hismelf? maynbe someone else?

but the most low of the low the most despicable disgusting people were the baltics. who, while they were seeing apeople was suffering they were schoible's little dogs and those lowlives were ven provotaive and insulting.


so putin, enjoy

[Bereta_Eder]

oh obama helped, a lot

[The Mad Monk]

does germany have some sort of european desruction fetisch?

No, that's the UK's thing, clearly.

[BeBMan]

Putin can have huggysocks

[The Mad Monk]

That must be a nightmare to launder.

[BeBMan]

Yeah, but Putin's more into money-laundering anyway

[Bereta_Eder]

it's not that greece din't need some sort of correction but the duetsch and all banks were comlicit to to it. yuo can't fake ignorance.

I was there in the 2000's when pre approved credit cards were flowing to the mail it's not though as all the people were swimming in money.

anyway. the way some conservative circles went all racist to what was a european fault was vomit inducing and to me justified taking them to the bank (pun intented)

previous than tsipras govs ere the omnes that had produced that crisis and were "committing " to reform but never applied it. it took tsipras and his clandestine motley crew to at one terrorize the misanthropes among europe's establlishment into not think that Greece would turn itself into Ifigeneia for the sake of fat cororprate pigs and will indeed take the whole europeasn construct down (because that was exactly what would happen if Greece left, Greece wasn't Uk where it didn't matter) but otoh tsipras also finally implemented the agreed reforms and thus Greece went out of the crisis and the external supervision and the EU continued.

one can argue that a compromising and not a conficting oriented approach would be better?

No. Noone took anything by politely asking (well outside of his family maybe). And by talking I mean dimishing peoples' suffering.

Howver people like scahuble (not counting the completely deranged varoufakis) were playing with firces that by far superceded them. and while holland, finland or the baltics were like little gremlins that didn't actually made any difference, the Grand Drakoumel was Germany's conservatives that in their quest for "discipline" (code word for german baking illegtitimate interests) gambled with the fate of an entire continent. Discipline was broken many times when their own interests demanded it.

anyway merkel was more or less more sane as was hollande and other people and first and foremost tsirpas so the EU that I think has benefited Greece greatly overall and comninues to does so, not talking financialy primarily) survived what would be the motherload of unraveling.

very nice socks btw. I saw them on temu

[Bereta_Eder]

now everyone in the eu is sayign that greece leads in the revovery and it is doing great etc

it's very nice to hear these things but I din't buy it

the gov "seems" to be doing ok but the rents have skyrocketed and prices in the supermarket are rising

yet noone budges

if you don't see hundrends of thousands of people in the sreets banging against trash cans, things are going moderately ok.

unfortunately that's the case


is it like a red apple that looks very healthy in the outsde but in the inside there is a worm and has eaten it and in some point it would crack in two?

because this apple which is corruption, interlinked vested interests and a degradation of kinstitutions of trasnperancy accountability and freedom of press are all matters of concern

eu has the corrective mechanicsms in place so what has happned will not happen again. but we're talking about greece where everything seems to go just dandy fine BUT there are scandals happening and a diminishment of independence of insitutions


ENTER TSIPRAS. he says I'm going to straighten this whore house out. trust me because I'm not corrupted. and he's not. everyone knows it. but they also suspect (influnced by a n unchained systemic propaganda) that he is also clueless.


and the question is:


do you want someone that knows what he's doing but he doesn't have your best interest in mind?


or do you want someone that doesn't know diddly squat but wants what's best for you?

eh?


anyway tsipras vow to implement an ameliorated but still harse reform program costed him the elections. (btw the ifm can eat excrement. how are such clueless people left in the open and unafraid?)

then mistoakis comes with his motto of "excellence everywhere" but has half the country under electronic surveillance and his cronies ironically named blue locusts (blue - the color of the party. locust one of the plagues of the pharaos, they eat a lot (of public funds). and he seems to be doing ok


but not so much.

and his time is starting to kick out


tsipras is seen as a uncompromised leader

if he can ammass a political proposition that can capture the minds of the people, he has won because there really isn;t any opossition for mitsotakis for the present

if the vast propaganda machine wins, he won't

but he has in the past

[Provost Harrison]

There is something that makes me a little uneasy with the Syriza gang and although they have many good points they really seem to have a blindspot when it comes to Russia that I just don't get, especially when hearing people like Tsipras or Varoufakis...it doesn't feel comfortable to me and I am curious paiktis whether you have any insight into this?