28 points

[Bereta_Eder]

Do you western idiots, honestly think that Zelensky and his cronies stolen just 100 million Euro?
Oh, common!!! These are a pocket money for them.
Zelensky transfers to Saudi Arabia 150 million EVERY MONTH.
The guy is a billionaire, thanks to your Western stupidity.
Do you honestly think this scandal and new Trump peace plan is just a coincidence?
Common!
That was just a warning to Zelenski - if you don't accept, I'll show to everyone how much you have really stolen.

You have supported a corrupt nazi fkhead for many years!

And you can take my words to the bank - this is just a beginning. No matter what will happen next, Donald will use this corrupt case to destroy the corrupt Democrats in us, because they surely had their share of corruption. Ukraine is a puppet and its so-called anti-corruption bureau is controlled by USA BY THE LAW!
Once again - BY THE LAW!
When Zelensky tried to bring anti-corruption bodies of Ukraine to his command few months ago, the rest of American bodies have put "protesters" to the streets like they did at Maidan in 2013. The Ukranian idiot didn't get the first warning. What else could you expect from a professional clown (a clown is his first profession and only a clown people could elect a clown to be their leaders).
Pathetic fks!

do you know that greece is probably the only country that was in debt even before it was founded?

yeap, from the british. with colonial terms completely high way robery. and lots of that money got lost in some pockets but lots of others went to buy sate of the art (for that 1820's) ships guns etc.

a level of wastefulness is to be expected. doesn't chnage anything

[Bereta_Eder]

also in order for the brits to get their money back (we finished paying I think in the '1990s) they had a vested interest that Greece reappears in the map (in early 1800's)

it's bad to get entagled with loan sharcs but somethimes there is no other way

[Bereta_Eder]

the trick is to recycle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_LiRMJ_ro

[BeBMan]

Looks like the 28 points plan has gone thru some snip snip.

[Bereta_Eder]

[The Mad Monk]

do you know that greece is probably the only country that was in debt even before it was founded?

yeap, from the british. with colonial terms completely high way robery. and lots of that money got lost in some pockets but lots of others went to buy sate of the art (for that 1820's) ships guns etc.

a level of wastefulness is to be expected. doesn't chnage anything

IIRC, when Haiti gained it's independence from France in a bloody revolt, Frace blocked their ports until they agreed to start paying off their colonial debts.

[Bereta_Eder]

I wouldn't be surprised because they did the same thing here as well after we lost a war (we started) against turkey (one of the many after the idnependence) and we said we ain't paying a dime.

perhaps more memorable is that haiti was the first country ever to recognize an intependent greece and not only that they filled a ship with fighters and sent it to fight against the ottomans with us. the people on that ship died tragically of illnesses but the act remains an obscure but very awe inspiring tale.

[Bereta_Eder]

I guess you could say we are in their debt

[The Mad Monk]

I just did a quick peek.

[QUOTE] Two centuries to the day after France imposed a crippling debt on Haiti in exchange for its independence, a UN forum has heard calls for the restitution of what has long been described as a “ransom” extorted under the threat of force from the Caribbean nation that still bears the scars of colonialism and slavery.











The first country ever to free itself from slavery through a successful uprising, Haiti gained independence from France in 1804. But the price for defying the colonial order was steep. On April 17, 1825, besieged by French warships, Haiti agreed to pay an indemnity of 150 million gold francs to the European power.
Officially, the payment was meant to compensate French plantation owners for “lost property” following independence, but the amount far exceeded actual losses.
“France forced the winners of Haiti’s independence – the former slaves – to compensate the losers, their former masters,” Monique Clesca, a journalist and activist of Haitian descent, said on Thursday at a meeting on the country’s independence debt.
The price of freedom: A double debt

This tax on liberty soon plunged world’s first Black republic into a spiral of debt. When Haiti was no longer able to pay, France pushed its banks to lend it money, what we call a “double debt,” Ms. Clesca explained.
By 1914, over three-quarters of the country’s national budget was still being drained to repay French banks. It was not until 1947 – more than 140 years after independence – that Haiti finally settled its debt.
“France committed an enormous injustice that still resonates today,” Ms. Clesca said.
An in-depth 2022 investigation by The New York Times found that Haiti’s payments to France amounted to the modern equivalent of roughly $560 million. Had that money been retained in Haiti and invested domestically, it could have added more than $20 billion to the country’s economy over time, according to some economists.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/04/1162406

...I wonder if Pootie-Poot has been taking notes.

[The Mad Monk]

...why am I not "authorized to update this post"?

[Lorizael]

I think because it was in the moderation queue? Anyway, approved.

[Ming]

Yeah... somethings hang in limbo until I get around to them. Sometimes it's quick, and other times

[The Mad Monk]

Anyway, all I wanted to do was eliminate that large empty space between the paragraphs, and maybe fix the QUOTE tags, but now I just don't feel like it.

[Bereta_Eder]

man... i'm clueless.


haiti wasn't the first to officially recognize idendepdent greece although in a very supportive letter it did refer to greece as a country. this had been done by many philelline countries already

there was no ship full of haitian fighters (although there was talk of gaining some sort of aid)


Greece didn't stop paying its debts. france and britain blocked piraeus port in order to stop greece from demolishing turkey completely. they did it in order to stop the greek offensive.

and greece was in fact indebted to britain with despicable terms even before it got its freedom but it didn't take up to the 1990s to repay that debt. by 1860 or so it was payed.

That is the truth. the other was propaganda (lossly based on truth) that would make putinka troll or fox news ashamed.

[The Mad Monk]

man... i'm clueless.

Young padawan, you have taken your first steps...toward wisdom.