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  • #16
    Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

    Thing is, on a population level, we are not the same as the US. We don't have this visceral and illogical hatred of anything socialist.
    That is why you have copied Soviet healthcare system. Just like I've said.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Serb View Post

      That is why you have copied Soviet healthcare system. Just like I've said.
      The Soviet Union based on the philosophy of whom? Would it be Karl Marx - German born and London resident for a significant proportion of his life? Vladimir Lenin who resided throughout Europe during his exile. You don't have a monopoly on those concepts my friend
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #18
        Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post

        It depends on the store and the card. Amazon and Costco have my card on file, no signature required, most stores (including Costco warehouses) have tap, some have chip, I don't think any only have swipe (though it works as a backup if the chip reader fails). No PIN is required for any credit card AFAIK, only debit cards, and I haven't used a debit card in over a decade.
        It may have changed, I have not visited the US for over a decade, but it seemed quite strange even back then that I had to sign for credit card payments.
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

          There are issues with the NHS but again, you are parroting propaganda you have been fed once more.


          I was not in aware The Guardian is a Russian parroting propaganda!
          Summary:

          Staff vacancies in NHS England are around 112,000 (8%) – and are predicted to keep rising

          Between 2011 and 2018 government spending per adult on social care in England fell by 6.5%

          Referrals to NHS mental health services increased by 44% between 2016-17 and 2021-22, from 4.4 million to 6.4 million

          Of 156 countries, the UK has the 12th worst female gender health gap

          Government spending on healthcare was £30.5bn lower a year than the EU14 average from 2010-2019

          https://www.theguardian.com/society/...th-anniversary

          Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
          But all essential services are provided and free at the point of use and prompt. My wife has recently been through cancer treatment. There was no waiting for months for that. It was immediate and comprehensive. When complications arose (one required immediate attention due to the life-threatening nature it) she was admitted, on IV antibiotics and then in the operating theatre in the period of a few hours. The stretch has affected non-critical services disproportionately (such as mental health, etc).


          Glad to hear that, but what about the non-critical services?
          How many hours you have to spend on phone to appoint a visit to a therapist?
          How many day/weeks/months you will actually get in there?
          How many hours you’ll have to wait in the corridor in queue before you get inside his cabinet?
          In Soviet Russia I appoint my visit to a doctor in the application in my smartphone and the next day I am inside the doctor’s cabinet in time I have set without any waiting in queue at all. I do the same with any other of the state services – just press the buttons in my phone.

          Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
          Thing is in the UK, we are very critical of these things because we want *better*. We see the parasitism that is affecting the NHS and don't want to be anything like what the US is in this respect. We don't just blindly think that our country does everything right. That's the thing of freedom, we are free to criticise, free to question. Whereas in your case if you say the wrong thing in the wrong place in the wrong time it's a hefty fine or even imprisonment.


          LOL!!!
          So much of British pathos and arrogance!!!
          You guys really believe that you are a real exceptional “white man” and all of the others are just stupid natives and sub humans. Centuries of bloody colonialism and exploitation of the other will never disappear without a trace from your mentality.

          Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
          A little bit of an overview of relative healthcare throughout the world:



          Alas Russia does not perform too well, really. Still, the statistics for the United States, supposedly the wealthiest country in the world, for its healthcare outcomes are truly shocking.


          LOL!!!
          You call THAT a “little bit”?!!!

          I don't want to spend hours digging in those digits, just because the other source will give me another ones.

          I prefer eyewitness reports like this:

          Kaliningrad’s Healthcare System Compared to the UK’s


          It was December 2018, and we had just left England bound for Kaliningrad. Within forty-eight hours of our arrival, a right old snot of a cold developed. Over the next couple of days, the ambient temperature continued to fall. Three or four more days passed, and my health continued to deteriorate. I had to give in and go to the doctors.

          There was no messing. In England I had grown used to having to fight to get a doctor’s appointment. The UK surgery where I had been registered subscribed to a policy whereby on no account should prospective patients gain access to a GP easily, at all or ever. Sore throat or ‘knock, knock, knocking on heaven’s door’, you had three options: (1) claw out of your sick bed ready to phone the surgery at 8am sharp (On your marks, get set, go!!) whereupon nine times out of ten the line was engaged; (2) book an appointment via internet access, which again necessitated a countdown procedure, commencing at 8pm sharp. Note that within the space of two minutes all the appointments for the following day were gone, your doctor of choice was not on the list, and if you wanted to book in advance, your next appointment would be three weeks minimum; and option (3) physically turn out of bed and drag your sad and sorry carcass up the road to the surgery.

          OK, so, what’s it like getting to see a quack in Kaliningrad? I hear you impatiently say.

          Having decided who I needed to see in terms of which medical discipline, all I had to do was telephone the clinic of my choice ~ yes, telephone and speak to a real person! We did this, were answered immediately and an appointment was made for the following day. Waiting time to see the doctor was no more than 10 minutes. About seven minutes elapsed, and we were on.

          Summing up, therefore. From my own experiences with the Russian healthcare sector, I would say that ease of access gets ten out of ten.

          All you have to do is pick up the phone and make an appointment (or make an appointment in the application at your smartphone, Serb must add). What Bliss! I am old enough to remember a time when this is all you had to do to get an appointment in England. The phone call took less than a couple of minutes, and I was in to see a specialist the very next day.


          But where I believe healthcare provision really loses out in Kaliningrad to its UK counterpart is in what used to be quaintly (and suspiciously) known as ‘the doctor’s bedside manner’. (When I was a boy, our British doctor was known by the sobriquet ‘Grabem’ ~ work it out for yourself!)

          On the diagnostic front, access to private healthcare in Kaliningrad is reassuringly swift, and throughout the various procedures to which I subjected myself, I felt that I was in good hands and have no gripes about the level of efficiency or efficacy of outcome. The clinics that I attended were smart and clean, the attitude officious but professional and the time for which the appointment was made was the time the appointment took place. No overburdened waiting rooms; no running impossibly, annoyingly, frustratingly nerve-rackingly and, arguably, dangerously late.

          https://expatkaliningrad.com/kalinin...ed-to-the-uks/

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          • #20
            Payment methods for the DC Metro transit system = not rocket science. I mean, there's plenty to make fun of in the West/USA, but at least we haven't given our government access to our bank accounts via our biometrics. Yet.
            The government has nothing to do with that, silly. Let me explain to a peasant how this fancy "boom stick" works.
            1. You download an application for a biometric access to metro into your phone.
            2. You make a selfy and tie it to your account in that application,
            3. You tie your credit card to your account.
            That is all!

            The credit/debit cards are issued by private banks, not by the state, dummy!

            As for paying with biometry in stores, restaurants, cinemas, stadiums - at every place which accepts cards (which literally means - EVERYWHERE) all you have to do is to smile at sensor at the card reader and it compares your biometrics with the biometrics you have left in your PRIVATE BANK, when your card was issued.

            So, shove your state interference in the place where the sun doesn't shine.

            Trump's "golden dome"? Yes, that's what you should be mocking. No one here is taking it seriously. We all know that this supposed missile system is just another Trump grift, modeled on the same idiocy that Reagan tried to sell us as his "Star Wars" missile defense system (officially called the Strategic Defense Initiative) back in the 1980s.

            No one -- NOBODY -- actually expects such a "missile defense shield" to happen. Or to actually prevent any attack. Even stupid Americans realize that the age of ICBM nukes is over, and that future wars will basically be fought by remote control (drones, online attacks, etc). To actually design, build, and deploy an effective missile defense system would take decades. But that's not in question. We all know that the 'golden dome' is just another excuse to hand big government contracts to Trump's billionaire buddies.
            Yeah, I remember those fancy SDI cartoons I was watching when I was a kid.
            You have spent billions on that huge bluff, which ended-up as a loud fart of nothing.
            With your Golden Dome you spend hundreds of billion and will get a bubbling fart at the end as always. You are a Hollywood warriors and self-PRing clowns.​

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            • #21
              Originally posted by giblets View Post
              Also, kudos to Serb for selling 1984 as a good thing
              Do you realize the difference between a service provided by a private bank and the total surveillance you have got in in YOUR 1984-fascist state?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by giblets View Post
                Americans hate mass transit
                Then stop creaming your pants after non-contact payment like ancient Egyptians seeing a spaceship.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Serb View Post

                  The government has nothing to do with that, silly. Let me explain to a peasant how this fancy "boom stick" works.
                  1. You download an application for a biometric access to metro into your phone.
                  2. You make a selfy and tie it to your account in that application,
                  3. You tie your credit card to your account.
                  That is all!

                  The credit/debit cards are issued by private banks, not by the state, dummy!

                  As for paying with biometry in stores, restaurants, cinemas, stadiums - at every place which accepts cards (which literally means - EVERYWHERE) all you have to do is to smile at sensor at the card reader and it compares your biometrics with the biometrics you have left in your PRIVATE BANK, when your card was issued.

                  So, shove your state interference in the place where the sun doesn't shine.



                  Yeah, I remember those fancy SDI cartoons I was watching when I was a kid.
                  You have spent billions on that huge bluff, which ended-up as a loud fart of nothing.
                  With your Golden Dome you spend hundreds of billion and will get a bubbling fart at the end as always. You are a Hollywood warriors and self-PRing clowns.​
                  I think this is a little rich. The US talks a lot of hype regarding its capabilities but I would strongly suspect that their air defence systems would still be capable of a high level of interception of incoming ICBMs, especially considering even current Patriot system technology. However overstating their capabilities is a form of propaganda akin to how Russia thinks it can sink the British Isles into the sea. Yet doesn't seem to be able to successfully test launch your Sarmat missiles. There's been quite a string of aborted tests haven't there?
                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • #24
                    Even if every Sarmat launch worked perfectly and Russia had 20,000 deployed with warheads it would give Russia zero new options that wouldn't be far worse for Russia than not exercising those options would be. WMD are something of a white elephant for great powers that would be a nightmare to occupy. Perhaps there's some deterrent value for states that could be occupied by other states.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

                      There are issues with the NHS but again, you are parroting propaganda you have been fed once more.
                      I was not in aware The Guardian is a Russian parroting propaganda!

                      Staff vacancies in NHS England are around 112,000 (8%) – and are predicted to keep rising

                      Between 2011 and 2018 government spending per adult on social care in England fell by 6.5%

                      Referrals to NHS mental health services increased by 44% between 2016-17 and 2021-22, from 4.4 million to 6.4 million

                      Of 156 countries, the UK has the 12th worst female gender health gap

                      Government spending on healthcare was £30.5bn lower a year than the EU14 average from 2010-2019

                      https://www.theguardian.com/society/...th-anniversary

                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
                      But all essential services are provided and free at the point of use and prompt. My wife has recently been through cancer treatment. There was no waiting for months for that. It was immediate and comprehensive. When complications arose (one required immediate attention due to the life-threatening nature it) she was admitted, on IV antibiotics and then in the operating theatre in the period of a few hours. The stretch has affected non-critical services disproportionately (such as mental health, etc).


                      Glad to hear that, but what about the non-critical services?
                      How many hours you have to spend on phone to appoint a visit to a therapist?
                      How many day/weeks/months you will actually get in there?
                      How many hours you’ll have to wait in the corridor in queue before you get inside his cabinet?
                      In Soviet Russia I appoint my visit to a doctor in the application in my smartphone and the next day I am inside the doctor’s cabinet in time I have set without any waiting in queue at all. I do the same with any other of the state services – just press the buttons in my phone.

                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
                      Thing is in the UK, we are very critical of these things because we want *better*. We see the parasitism that is affecting the NHS and don't want to be anything like what the US is in this respect. We don't just blindly think that our country does everything right. That's the thing of freedom, we are free to criticise, free to question. Whereas in your case if you say the wrong thing in the wrong place in the wrong time it's a hefty fine or even imprisonment.


                      LOL!!!
                      So much of British pathos and arrogance!!!
                      You guys really believe that you are a real exceptional “white man” and all of the others are just stupid natives and sub humans. Centuries of bloody colonialism and exploitation of the other will never disappear without a trace from your mentality.

                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
                      A little bit of an overview of relative healthcare throughout the world:



                      Alas Russia does not perform too well, really. Still, the statistics for the United States, supposedly the wealthiest country in the world, for its healthcare outcomes are truly shocking.


                      LOL!!!
                      You call THAT a “little bit”?!!!

                      I don't want to spend hours digging in those digits, just because the other source will give me another ones.

                      I prefer eyewitness reports like this:

                      Kaliningrad’s Healthcare System Compared to the UK’s


                      It was December 2018, and we had just left England bound for Kaliningrad. Within forty-eight hours of our arrival, a right old snot of a cold developed. Over the next couple of days, the ambient temperature continued to fall. Three or four more days passed, and my health continued to deteriorate. I had to give in and go to the doctors.

                      There was no messing. In England I had grown used to having to fight to get a doctor’s appointment. The UK surgery where I had been registered subscribed to a policy whereby on no account should prospective patients gain access to a GP easily, at all or ever. Sore throat or ‘knock, knock, knocking on heaven’s door’, you had three options: (1) claw out of your sick bed ready to phone the surgery at 8am sharp (On your marks, get set, go!!) whereupon nine times out of ten the line was engaged; (2) book an appointment via internet access, which again necessitated a countdown procedure, commencing at 8pm sharp. Note that within the space of two minutes all the appointments for the following day were gone, your doctor of choice was not on the list, and if you wanted to book in advance, your next appointment would be three weeks minimum; and option (3) physically turn out of bed and drag your sad and sorry carcass up the road to the surgery.

                      OK, so, what’s it like getting to see a quack in Kaliningrad? I hear you impatiently say.

                      Having decided who I needed to see in terms of which medical discipline, all I had to do was telephone the clinic of my choice ~ yes, telephone and speak to a real person! We did this, were answered immediately and an appointment was made for the following day. Waiting time to see the doctor was no more than 10 minutes. About seven minutes elapsed, and we were on.

                      Summing up, therefore. From my own experiences with the Russian healthcare sector, I would say that ease of access gets ten out of ten.

                      All you have to do is pick up the phone and make an appointment (or make an appointment in the application at your smartphone, Serb must add). What Bliss! I am old enough to remember a time when this is all you had to do to get an appointment in England. The phone call took less than a couple of minutes, and I was in to see a specialist the very next day.


                      But where I believe healthcare provision really loses out in Kaliningrad to its UK counterpart is in what used to be quaintly (and suspiciously) known as ‘the doctor’s bedside manner’. (When I was a boy, our British doctor was known by the sobriquet ‘Grabem’ ~ work it out for yourself!)

                      On the diagnostic front, access to private healthcare in Kaliningrad is reassuringly swift, and throughout the various procedures to which I subjected myself, I felt that I was in good hands and have no gripes about the level of efficiency or efficacy of outcome. The clinics that I attended were smart and clean, the attitude officious but professional and the time for which the appointment was made was the time the appointment took place. No overburdened waiting rooms; no running impossibly, annoyingly, frustratingly nerve-rackingly and, arguably, dangerously late.

                      https://expatkaliningrad.com/kalinin...ed-to-the-uks/

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                      • Provost Harrison
                        Provost Harrison commented
                        Editing a comment
                        So what you're saying Serb is that you don't want to deal in facts, just deal in soundbites and headlines that suit your narrative. Is that what you are saying? You're not very good with facts I see, just an awful lot of noise. Yeah, there are issues here, yet the figures clearly show you have far worse health outcomes than the UK. I doubt the enclave of Kalningrad is a particularly representative sample. Who knows what it is like in the far east of your country.

                        All you are is a loud propagandist. Long on bullsh*t, short on fact and insight.

                      • Serb
                        Serb commented
                        Editing a comment
                        I know what it is like in the rest of Russia, because I live here - it is ABSOLUTELY THE SAME.
                        You can shove your "far worse" to the dargest place of yours. The real eyuewitness reports shows that your NHS is terrible in comparison with Russian.

                    • #26
                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

                      I think this is a little rich. The US talks a lot of hype regarding its capabilities but I would strongly suspect that their air defence systems would still be capable of a high level of interception of incoming ICBMs, especially considering even current Patriot system technology. However overstating their capabilities is a form of propaganda akin to how Russia thinks it can sink the British Isles into the sea. Yet doesn't seem to be able to successfully test launch your Sarmat missiles. There's been quite a string of aborted tests haven't there?
                      OMG!!!

                      And you are lecturing me about propaganda?

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                      • #27
                        Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

                        I think this is a little rich. The US talks a lot of hype regarding its capabilities but I would strongly suspect that their air defence systems would still be capable of a high level of interception of incoming ICBMs, especially considering even current Patriot system technology. However overstating their capabilities is a form of propaganda akin to how Russia thinks it can sink the British Isles into the sea. Yet doesn't seem to be able to successfully test launch your Sarmat missiles. There's been quite a string of aborted tests haven't there?
                        Yeah, we see how well your Patriots are burning at Ukraine not even cpable to defefend themselves.

                        Patriot intercepting an ICBM is the most fancy fairy tale I've heard.
                        You need to get sober or start to take your pills in time.​

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                        • #28
                          For reference, pay by face exists in the U.S., just not on public transit.

                          Mastercard and JP Morgan have the capability for example. I think people just aren’t interested in it enough to make it a widespread adoption. Apple Pay is almost identical but the bio data stays on your phone and not in the cloud, so people feel more data secure.
                          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                          • #29
                            Serb what are you? the aliens who brought forbiden technology on earth?


                            even a second rate british online card can do biometrics. my grandpa can do biometris. it isn\t if we could, it's if we should.

                            anyway from reading all that you are so far down the propaganda rabbit hole it's sad. I won't engage in a fight with you


                            I just say that surely there are many thousands of dead ukranians, many many more russians and russia is already exhausted and you are now a slave puppt of china


                            those were your only two roads from the beggining.

                            I'm not happy when young people die, but you are living in a pararel universe and basically lost your life. That's what sad about it because russians that yern for freedom exist and are now squashed.


                            "fascist gay sh holes"? who are you? trump?

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                            • #30
                              also you saying that it's ok the banks know what colour your underpants are because they are private and not governmental? cookoo land.


                              1. do you think it's better that the private sector violates your privacy rather than the state?

                              and

                              1. when were russians banks not on direct and immediate control of the present russian mafia state anyway?


                              do you even have the concept of privacy there any more?
                              thaqt includes having thoughts of your own and not fed to you by your bald botoxed oligarchs (which are now america's leaders role models)

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