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  • #31
    Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

    Don't fall for this Russian rhetoric. The parliament overwhelmingly supported the continuation of the presidency of Zelenskyy under these circumstances. You should be aware of this. All Serb is trying to do is further Russian influence by undermining Ukrainian sovereignty. Classic Russian troll tricks.
    I might add you should also not fall for the Russian troll trick that would assert that somehow unconstitutional governance = loss of national sovereignty.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

      More whataboutery. Is that your only resort at this point? I mean look at the human rights abuses perpetrated by Russia.
      LOL!!!
      Russia is ten times more free than any of your Western gay fascist sh!tholes.

      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
      Navalny ring any bells?
      No, it doesn’t. Navalny was found guilty in scam on many occasions by the court, including the lawsuit initiated by the French company Yves Rocher (the well-known producer of cosmetics).
      But since he was a puppet of your (Western) special services whose mission was to destabilize Russia, you made him a political prisoner and an innocent victim of the inhuman regime, while in fact he was just a regular rogue and scoundrel.
      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
      Whatever elements of truth there are to your accusations, does that give Russia the right to threaten its neighbours? (including large military buildups at the Finnish or Estonian borders who you cannot accuse of violating anything) and besides, cause large scale destruction and devastation in Ukraine, murder civilians, devastate cities? You can blame "NATO expansion" all you like but you sent Scandinavia into the arms of NATO for mutual defence given your posturing.
      Killing of thousands of Russians after the coup sponsored and initiated by YOU, the brutal discrimination of Russians in all possible ways (who are the native inhabitants of those lands) are certainly gave us right to interfere to protect them, especially after you and your Ukrainian lackeys have refused to fulfill Minsk agreements. We have tried to resolve the crisis peacefully, while you have spit on the signed Minsk agreements and kept shelling Donbass for an EIGHT YEARS, killing and wounding dozens every day.
      So gfyslf, you Western moralist!

      We are tired of your constant and blatant lies!

      As for the military build up at Finnish border… sure, what f else do you expects when a neutral neighboring country enters a hostile military alliance, which is famous for its previous aggressions?

      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
      And yeah, terrorism, as always, is a perspective thing. At least they clearly target legitimate military targets, not firing cruise missiles or kamikaze drones into densely populated areas. You easily forget that you are the aggressor here no matter how many contrived and concocted casus belli you try and throw out.
      Since when blowing-up a passenger train is a legitimate military target?
      Since when blowing-up journalist in their cars are a legitimate thing?
      Since when threating to kill children and wife of the head of the Russian delegation in Istanbul is a legitimate thing?

      I know you are living in your brainwashed propaganda universe, but the truth is that Russia aims military targets, military industrial complex facilities and power plants that supply them. The few civilian victims Ukraine has is the result of their anti-missile fire, because against all laws of war they hide their SAM batteries in the middle of their cities and their missed missiles and the debris fall on the civilian buildings. As any cowardice Nazi scum, they use civilians as human shield.
      Russia never aims civilian targets, unlike your beloved Nazi scum, 80% of whose attacks are always aimed on civilian targets.
      But your enlightened democratic media never shows that to you or even better – take the pictures or videos of Ukrainian attacks versus Russian civilian buildings and portray them as Russian attacks against Ukraine.
      You are just a lying bastards, all of you!
      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
      Again, remember much about the Budapest Memorandum and your nation's gross violations of it?
      What was that?
      Oh, you mean a worthless piece of paper which was never ratified by any of the sides including Ukraine itself?
      Why should we follow a piece of paper, which has no ANY legal force?

      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
      Tell me, how many have died in the meatgrinder of the Russian military, directly or indirectly, through the acts of Putin? How many more would die if he has his way? You do not commit that level of proportion of GDP to "defence" if you are just literally interested in defence. The constant (attempted) demonstration of your new ICBM capability (no one is falling for there being an announced test and then all trace of it disappears, no reports of anything from the immediate vicinity).
      It is not Putin who hunts Ukrainian males on the streets like animals and throws them to the frontline without any training and supply, who uses its citizens as cannon foder, Zelensky does it. And yes, we have killed over a million of Ukrainian cannon fodder and will kill much more until you and your puppet will finally surrender.
      And it is funny to hear a moral lecture from a Brit.
      It was your prime minister Boris Johnson who ordered your pet dog Zelensky to stop negotiating for peace at Istanbul in 2022, despite the text of the peace treaty was already signed by the head of Ukrainian delegation Mr. Arakhamia.
      It is you who is responsible that peace wasn’t signed in 2022 and over a million of Ukrainians are dead now – YOU, the Brits!
      If it wasn’t you, they would have lost only Donetsk and Lugansk, if they sign the peace now, they will lose Zaporojie and Kherson as well. If they will continue, we will take it all and establish neutral regime at Ukraine.
      It was never bout the territories, but every future offer of peace from Russia will be worse than the previous one. Period.


      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
      It's sad, a culturally-rich country like Russia with so much potential reduced to this. Hopefully it is approaching the "humiliation point" that Nazi Germany had to endure and things will change for the better. For the Russian people and everyone.
      In your wet dreams, loosers.
      We will fk you!
      And it is you and your whole Western coalition of 50+ countries who are being humiliated by us.
      All of you suckers can’t beat a SINGLE Russia in a proxy war started by you!
      Just tell me how much your life has improved since the beggining of your crusade against Russia in 2022?
      How is your electricity, heating or water bills are doing now? What about a food price, you funny clown nation of half cucumbers. You wanted to cripple us loosers, now we cripply you. Because youfreakers never learn. You should have learned history and listen to Bismark who once set a golden rule for Europe - "Never-ever fk with Russia!"
      But you never learn!!!​

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
        given this legal basis it would probably be a good idea for Zelensky to step down and be immediately deputized by the head of parliament to serve as acting president until the next election
        Former chancellor Franz von Papen and other conservative leaders convinced President Paul von Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as chancellor on 30 January 1933. Shortly thereafter, the Reichstag passed the Enabling Act of 1933, which began the process of transforming the Weimar Republic into Nazi Germany, a one-party dictatorship based upon the totalitarian, autocratic, and fascistic ideology of Nazism.

        Any ring bells?
        ​
        You are asking a dictator to give-up his dictatorship power.
        Yeah, right!
        Zelensky will finish as Hitler.​

        And the head of parliament has no power to appoint anyone a president. His duty is to be a president untill the next election.
        Besides, the term of Parliament is expired as well, so there is no really ANY legitimate power at Ukraine right now.
        It's a freaking European Somali.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

          Tell me, what did the parliament do with that power?
          You are a fancy woodpecker, really!!!

          In accordance with the Ukrainian constitution, Ukraine is a presidential-parliamentary republic. So it is normal if (according to constitution) president can't fulfill its duties (because his term is over) the power goes to the head of parliament.

          Was it...reappointed Zelenskyy?
          OMG!!!

          Could you read?
          Just see above of what I have posted already:
          Article 103 of the Constitution of Ukraine states: "The President of Ukraine is elected by the citizens of Ukraine on the basis of universal, equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot for a period of five years."

          Nobody, but the people of Ukraine can elect the president!
          NOBODY!
          The president cannot be appointed by the parliament or anyone else. You are just speaking nonsense.

          So this argument falls apart very quickly. Also regarding Ukraine's Constitutional Court, well, that is a bit of a relic isn't it?
          Are you sure you are sane when you call a supreme court a relic?
          Reform was required before beginning accession talks to the EU so what did you expect?
          I didn’t expect the head of the supreme court will be arrested after the Court’s verdict that Zelensky has usurped the power in a country. Well, honestly, I wasn’t surprised.

          Nazi are always Nazis.

          All new appointments are talking place under international supervision.
          WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
          WHAT APPOINTMENTS, WHAT INTERNATIONAL SUPERVISION?!!!
          Are you sure you are all right?
          Maybe you have missed your pills time?

          So again, appears to be a case of those in glass houses throwing stones.
          Unlike your Nazi puppet state, Russia has held presidential elections at March 2024 and Putin won it won with 88% of the vote with a turnout 77.5%. It is the highest percentage in a presidential election in post-Soviet Russia.
          Unlike your clown Zelensky who has already banned all opposition parties, banned all opposition media and broadcast his propaganda bullsh!t on ALL TV-channels 24/7, Putin doesn’t afraid of election, because he knows that whole Russian people supports him.

          You freaks have consolidated us around our president.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

            Don't fall for this Russian rhetoric. The parliament overwhelmingly supported the continuation of the presidency of Zelenskyy under these circumstances. You should be aware of this. All Serb is trying to do is further Russian influence by undermining Ukrainian sovereignty. Classic Russian troll tricks.
            Constitution?
            Do you know such word?

            The parliament has no right to continue the presidency.

            The presidency cannot be continued nor by parliament, nor by Martians, nor by the Almighty!

            When your term is over - it is over and there should be a new election.
            If there is martial law all power goes to the head of parliament and new elections should be held when the martial law is over.

            That is what Ukranian constitution says.

            Do you realize that or not?​

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

              Also I'd kindly request that you argue respectfully too. Your insults are just making you look ridiculous, quite frankly.
              Oh, I beg your pardon!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                I might add you should also not fall for the Russian troll trick that would assert that somehow unconstitutional governance = loss of national sovereignty.
                I've never stated that.

                The loss of national sovereignity in my dictionary it is when someone signs a mineral treaty and gives all of its valubles to his master for free and forever. If that is not master and servant relationship, then I don't know what it is.
                Ukraine has become your colony since 2014, now you just have formalized your relationships.
                The level of your cinizm shocks, you don't even feel a little bit ashemed for making a legal colony in 21st century.

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                • -Jrabbit
                  -Jrabbit commented
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                  Pretty big talk from the country that started the war.

              • #38
                Are we finished there, suckers?

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                • -Jrabbit
                  -Jrabbit commented
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                  You are hilarious. Ukraine pulls off one of the most audacious, daring, complex attacks in the history of modern warfare, and all you can do is post wall-of-text attacks against Zelensky - the man made it happen. You'll notice he didn't tip his hand, even after Trump attacked him personally in a staged White House media event. He is a badass who is fighting for his country's sovereignty against a massive country. In 2022, Russian attacked, expecting to win within 3 days. Now it's over 3 years, with no end in sight.

                  It's pretty pathetic that all you can come up to explain your country's incompetence in this war is to attack Zelensky.

              • #39
                Fnished in what?

                even with your best buddy trump at your side you're hitting a wall.

                there will be no compromise and no end to the war untill russia creeps back to where it came from.

                Noone is interested in peace. (since this means it gives up on what makes it himself/herself) This is existential for europe.

                meanwhile your whole young generation is being blown up and europe is resting easy on its laurels.

                I am not sayng that as anything else but as a sign. A sign that your gov thinks russian life is cheap.

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                • #40
                  Originally posted by Serb View Post
                  LOL!!!
                  Russia is ten times more free than any of your Western gay fascist sh!tholes.
                  Didn't like the reply so this is where we go is it? Vile spew. I expect no better Serb, you should get off this place to somewhere more to your taste. Hell, why not volunteer for the meatgrinder, would be lovely to see you smeared across the warfront - another red smudge on the fields of Ukraine.

                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • #41
                    Originally posted by Serb View Post
                    LOL!!!
                    Russia is ten times more free than any of your Western gay fascist sh!tholes.
                    Got any evidence to back up that stance. For every statement I have made I have provided evidence from neutral sources. You, you just shout and spit and yell. Pathetic.

                    No, it doesn’t. Navalny was found guilty in scam on many occasions by the court, including the lawsuit initiated by the French company Yves Rocher (the well-known producer of cosmetics).
                    But since he was a puppet of your (Western) special services whose mission was to destabilize Russia, you made him a political prisoner and an innocent victim of the inhuman regime, while in fact he was just a regular rogue and scoundrel.
                    Ah, more Russian propaganda. He was a credible opponent imprisoned on Trumped up charges. In fact also removed to Siberia to prevent him being visible where he perished. Shame on you.

                    Killing of thousands of Russians after the coup sponsored and initiated by YOU, the brutal discrimination of Russians in all possible ways (who are the native inhabitants of those lands) are certainly gave us right to interfere to protect them, especially after you and your Ukrainian lackeys have refused to fulfill Minsk agreements. We have tried to resolve the crisis peacefully, while you have spit on the signed Minsk agreements and kept shelling Donbass for an EIGHT YEARS, killing and wounding dozens every day.
                    So gfyslf, you Western moralist!

                    We are tired of your constant and blatant lies!
                    Yet all we hear is your propaganda. Zelenskyy is a native Russian speaker for example. What? Elections held in Donbas under less than democratic circumstances. Yeah, whatever. You backed separatists in those regions who have caused havoc. Forget about flight Malaysian Airlines flight 17? If it's not malevolence with your regime, it is incompetence.

                    As for the military build up at Finnish border… sure, what f else do you expects when a neutral neighboring country enters a hostile military alliance, which is famous for its previous aggressions?
                    Previous aggressors? Last time I checked the cold war was over, yet you've returned to this hostility that Putin has decided is right, so therefore you have all dived head long into. I see you have no clear insight into the conduct of your own country. You're as bad as the MAGA who are here. Clearly addled and mentally compromised.

                    Since when blowing-up a passenger train is a legitimate military target?
                    Since when blowing-up journalist in their cars are a legitimate thing?
                    Since when threating to kill children and wife of the head of the Russian delegation in Istanbul is a legitimate thing?
                    Since when was butchering Bucha a legitimate military target? However the Kerch Bridge is a critical strategic asset in connecting Crimea to Russia. Don't pretend otherwise. Your country and its leadership wouldn't have hesitated one iota to do likewise. It's harsh but toppling that bridge would strike a huge strategic blow to Russia. Your lies are showing through Serb.

                    I know you are living in your brainwashed propaganda universe, but the truth is that Russia aims military targets, military industrial complex facilities and power plants that supply them. The few civilian victims Ukraine has is the result of their anti-missile fire, because against all laws of war they hide their SAM batteries in the middle of their cities and their missed missiles and the debris fall on the civilian buildings. As any cowardice Nazi scum, they use civilians as human shield.
                    Russia never aims civilian targets, unlike your beloved Nazi scum, 80% of whose attacks are always aimed on civilian targets.
                    But your enlightened democratic media never shows that to you or even better – take the pictures or videos of Ukrainian attacks versus Russian civilian buildings and portray them as Russian attacks against Ukraine.
                    You are just a lying bastards, all of you![/quote]

                    I heard "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah".You're speaking crap and you know it.

                    What was that?
                    Oh, you mean a worthless piece of paper which was never ratified by any of the sides including Ukraine itself?
                    Why should we follow a piece of paper, which has no ANY legal force?
                    No Serb, you've reneged on an understanding you committed to with other nations. There are no technicalities that get you off the hook. You have promised one thing and invariably done another. Are you surprised that no one, and I mean no one trusts Russia. Even you supposed allies - well let's be honest - it is a convenience. China holds you by the scrotum and it knows any day now it's chance to squeeze will come.

                    It is not Putin who hunts Ukrainian males on the streets like animals and throws them to the frontline without any training and supply, who uses its citizens as cannon foder, Zelensky does it. And yes, we have killed over a million of Ukrainian cannon fodder and will kill much more until you and your puppet will finally surrender.
                    And it is funny to hear a moral lecture from a Brit.
                    It was your prime minister Boris Johnson who ordered your pet dog Zelensky to stop negotiating for peace at Istanbul in 2022, despite the text of the peace treaty was already signed by the head of Ukrainian delegation Mr. Arakhamia.
                    It is you who is responsible that peace wasn’t signed in 2022 and over a million of Ukrainians are dead now – YOU, the Brits!
                    If it wasn’t you, they would have lost only Donetsk and Lugansk, if they sign the peace now, they will lose Zaporojie and Kherson as well. If they will continue, we will take it all and establish neutral regime at Ukraine.
                    It was never bout the territories, but every future offer of peace from Russia will be worse than the previous one. Period.
                    Well the numbers seem suspicious to me, last time I checked it was Russian casualties that were approaching the 1m mark, not Ukraine (who have taken substantial numbers).

                    And do you understand why they were advised not to capitulate? Because like with Crimea, you'd just come back for more a couple of years later, once you've rested and recovered. Your country behaves like rabid dogs, they have no respect for international law, for the sanctity of life or for justice. You seem to be forgetting what I said before, no one is falling for your nonsense cassus belli, you are just an aggressive, imperialist force of conquest looking to settle a score and rebuild some sort of empire in an age where empires are dead and buried.

                    In your wet dreams, loosers.
                    We will fk you!
                    And it is you and your whole Western coalition of 50+ countries who are being humiliated by us.
                    All of you suckers can’t beat a SINGLE Russia in a proxy war started by you!
                    Just tell me how much your life has improved since the beggining of your crusade against Russia in 2022?
                    How is your electricity, heating or water bills are doing now? What about a food price, you funny clown nation of half cucumbers. You wanted to cripple us loosers, now we cripply you. Because youfreakers never learn. You should have learned history and listen to Bismark who once set a golden rule for Europe - "Never-ever fk with Russia!"
                    But you never learn!!!​
                    Yet here I am in my own home, and despite the spike in energy prices they have settled down considerably and things are relatively normal. Because you know what, we had a deal, an understanding. And you reneged on it, you showed your vile nature and we've had to find other sources of these resources. And we don't need your stuff any more. Time we really got down to business with those secondary sanctions, properly finish you off.

                    Lest you forgot, your 3 day special campaign to bring Ukraine to its knees, to capture Zelenskyy and force Ukrainian capitulation was not only unsuccessful but was a bitter embarrassment for your country. It demonstrated that your pure command structure of a military, incapable of feedback and adaptation or learning failed dismally. No one fears you any more, you're just all bark and no bite.

                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #42
                      Originally posted by Serb View Post
                      You are a fancy woodpecker, really!!!

                      In accordance with the Ukrainian constitution, Ukraine is a presidential-parliamentary republic. So it is normal if (according to constitution) president can't fulfill its duties (because his term is over) the power goes to the head of parliament.
                      And still is. There is nothing to suggest that Zelenskyy is ruling by fiat. Unlike someone in Moscow we could mention...

                      [quote[OMG!!!

                      Could you read?
                      Just see above of what I have posted already:
                      Article 103 of the Constitution of Ukraine states: "The President of Ukraine is elected by the citizens of Ukraine on the basis of universal, equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot for a period of five years."

                      Nobody, but the people of Ukraine can elect the president!
                      NOBODY!
                      The president cannot be appointed by the parliament or anyone else. You are just speaking nonsense.[/quote]

                      In the absence of an election under martial law. Did you not read what I read and stated. I see selective reading is what you do. I suppose you have to when all you have to digest is Russian state propaganda.

                      Are you sure you are sane when you call a supreme court a relic?

                      I didn’t expect the head of the supreme court will be arrested after the Court’s verdict that Zelensky has usurped the power in a country. Well, honestly, I wasn’t surprised.

                      Nazi are always Nazis.
                      Again, you're not reading properly are you? Sticking to all caps (and going on an upper case rant) does not do your argument any justice.

                      WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
                      WHAT APPOINTMENTS, WHAT INTERNATIONAL SUPERVISION?!!!
                      Are you sure you are all right?
                      Maybe you have missed your pills time?
                      Apparently I am the one missing the pills, yet here you are, ranting and raving like a lunatic. So tell me Serb, since the suspension of the Constitutional Court in the Ukraine, what has been happeining since to replace these structures? Come now...I mean, especially seeing as one of Ukraine's ambitions is accession to the EU.

                      And why the obsession with the internal affairs of the Ukraine when your own country is a despotic hellscape in a total war economy, paranoid of its neighbours to the extreme. No wonder you have friends like North Korea and other dictatorships just like yourself.

                      Unlike your Nazi puppet state, Russia has held presidential elections at March 2024 and Putin won it won with 88% of the vote with a turnout 77.5%. It is the highest percentage in a presidential election in post-Soviet Russia.
                      Unlike your clown Zelensky who has already banned all opposition parties, banned all opposition media and broadcast his propaganda bullsh!t on ALL TV-channels 24/7, Putin doesn’t afraid of election, because he knows that whole Russian people supports him.

                      You freaks have consolidated us around our president.
                      88% of the vote with a 77.5% turnout. When reasons were found to bar most other candidates from the election? Oh come on, are you genuinely trying to make out your elections are free and fair? That's a good one.He may has well have won 110% of the vote, it wouldn't be any less believable.

                      Speaking of Erith:

                      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                      • #43
                        Originally posted by Serb View Post

                        Constitution?
                        Do you know such word?

                        The parliament has no right to continue the presidency.

                        The presidency cannot be continued nor by parliament, nor by Martians, nor by the Almighty!

                        When your term is over - it is over and there should be a new election.
                        If there is martial law all power goes to the head of parliament and new elections should be held when the martial law is over.

                        That is what Ukranian constitution says.

                        Do you realize that or not?​
                        We've been through this Serb, do try to keep up. How do you conduct an election when 20% of the country is under occupation and there is a significant risk of attack from the enemy (ie, your country). Same applied to the UK during World War II under the circumstances. There's nothing strange going on here, and Ukraine's parliament is still completely functioning.

                        But you like to continue to spin this misrepresentative nonsense. But we all see you are just another Russian troll. I'll say this, one of the most aggressive I've come across, an all-caps warrior. But it's the same lies, the same fictions, the same whataboutisms as always. The biggest butcher on the block trying to deflect onto someone else. But we all see your country for what it is.
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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