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  • #16
    Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

    You mean those you didn't kill?

    We don't slaughter civilians intentionally like Ukrainians or Israelis do.
    I mean the ones who voted to rejoin Russia after 34 years of illegal Ukrainian occupation.​

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Serb View Post


      We don't slaughter civilians intentionally like Ukrainians or Israelis do.
      I mean the ones who voted to rejoin Russia after 34 years of illegal Ukrainian occupation.​
      Indifference is Bliss

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Serb View Post


        We don't slaughter civilians intentionally​
        Right, your armed forces are just that incompetent.
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Serb View Post

          Speaking of Russian state media



          Speaking of Russian state media...

          I have over 250 TV channels (like absolute majority of Russians, the unlimited access to Internet at 100Mbs speed + 250+ TV channels, worth less than 8 dollars a month here).

          ALL, once again - ALL, Ukrainian channels translate the same "TV-marathon" state propaganda 24/7.

          Literally one, single crap at EVERY TV-channel, ALWAYS!

          Because Zelensky has usurped the power, canceled presidential and parliament elections, banned opposition parties and media and banned the largest Christian faith of Ukraine.

          They simply have nothing to watch except this one state propaganda marathon at every TV-channel.

          That is the official "ministry of truth" in accordance with Orwell.

          Do you realize that or not?!
          This is reaching, an election during war is expressly forbidden in the Ukrainian constitution. In fact the exact same happened in the UK during WWII. However elections were held immediately after the end. There's no possible reason to think that there is anything other, especially as Zelenskyy is predicted to win by a landslide. The rest, well, is whataboutism of the highest order, especially given Russia's track record on free and fair elections and human rights. The fact still states that you have invaded a sovereign nation, you have violated your treaties on several occassions (heard of the Budapest Memorandum?). This is the typical chicanery that all Russian troll bots seem to do.

          Also you may have access to all of those channels, still may be the case where you are following the narrative of your own media. Bias is one hell of a thing you know buddy. Besides, would you feel safe to even speak your mind on such a public forum given the potential consequences.

          Got any more of those laughs in there, they tend to demonstrate the tediousness of your argument.

          Let me tell you a few home truths about your country, my friend. For all your boasting your military has proven itself to be most ineffective. I suspect because it is a command structure with little room for feedback and honest communication. So no one actually relays the true situation in the military. I mean, how on earth was your initial offensive such an unmitigated failure with no thoughts given to logistics or strategy. And you've literally burnt through all of your assets. Lost thousands of tank, artillery people - before even getting to the scale of human loss. Most realistic estimates certainly place it in the high hundreds of thousands. I mean think about that, how many people you have thrown at this "special offensive". And you are still making marginal progress but talk about pyrrhic victories, you are bleeding hundreds of men for every square kilometre you take. It's a tragic squandering of human life and the cause lies at the feet of your government and those who facilitate it. Issue is you now have a chronic shortage of manpower - not just to throw into the meatgrinder but also to work in the munitions and weapons factories. It's starting to cause serious inflation and this whole total war economy has gone on too long as to be unsustainable and, well, all Ukraine has to do is hold you off, or at least slow you down and the rest will happen all on its own. And all the Russian military seems to be capable of is indiscriminate attacks against the population. No precision. No strategy. Just the tactics of terror. But Ukraine is slowly picking away at your underlying machinery bit by bit, death by a thousand cuts to refineries, your drone manufacturing facilities and now this attack against a signficant number of air assets. For all the hype you have, Russia is on borrowed time. And the thing is...this tragedy never had to be a thing at any point. Just for the aggressive dreams of old men.
          Speaking of Erith:

          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

            This is reaching, an election during war is expressly forbidden in the Ukrainian constitution.

            Article 103 of the Constitution of Ukraine states: "The President of Ukraine is elected by the citizens of Ukraine on the basis of universal, equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot for a period of five years."

            The Constitutional Court of Ukraine has established that the provisions of article 103 of the Constitution and other articles defining the constitutional and legal status of the President do not contain norms that would establish a different term of office than five years.

            Article 112 clarifies: "The performance of the duties of the President of Ukraine for the period until the election and assumption of the post of the new President of Ukraine is entrusted to the head of the Parliament of Ukraine."

            Article 157 says: "The Constitution of Ukraine may not be amended under martial law or a state of emergency."

            Dmytro Tabachnyk, the author of the Constitution of Ukraine, stated: "Knowing the norms of the Constitution, I can say that, according to Article 103 of the Constitution and the explanation of the Constitutional Court... We can say that after May 20, 2024, Zelensky is not the legitimate leader of Ukraine."

            So, there is not a single clause in the Constitution of Ukraine on the basis of which Zelensky would have the right to remain president after May 20, 2024.

            The decisions taken by him and the agreements concluded may not have a legitimate status after the end of martial law, which is extended by Parliament every three months. The head of the Verkhovna Rada (Ukranian parliament), Ruslan Stefanchuk, should become the interim head of state with the right to sign international treaties.

            Therefore the rest of your post is a total bullsh!t.

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            • #21
              Guess what your beloved Zelensky dictator did?
              He arrested the head of Constitutional court and didn't appoint a new one.

              Thus, right now Ukraine has no Constitutional court, no presidential and parliament elections, no opposition parties, a single the same TV-marathon at every TV-channel broadcasting state propaganda 24/7 at EVERY TV-channel, banned the largest Christain branch of Ukraine and the most widespread language at Ukraine (majority of people at Ukraine consider Russian as their native language and use it in their communication at home).

              A perfect power usurper, a Nazi and terrorist scum.
              A beggar and a bloody clown.​

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              • #22
                As he said: "I put constitutional rights of Ukrainians on pause until the end of war".


                Then why the f you surprise they hunt for man like a cattle, beat them (sometimes to death) forcibly mobilize and throw that cannon fodder at frontline after three days of "training".

                The bloody clown is a mass murderer.​



                You do know that before being elected a president Zelensky was a professioal CLOWN for decades?
                Now he is a bloody clown and queen of beggars.
                Last edited by Serb; June 3, 2025, 13:22.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Serb View Post
                  Guess what your beloved Zelensky dictator did?
                  He arrested the head of Constitutional court and didn't appoint a new one.

                  Thus, right now Ukraine has no Constitutional court, no presidential and parliament elections, no opposition parties, a single the same TV-marathon at every TV-channel broadcasting state propaganda 24/7 at EVERY TV-channel, banned the largest Christain branch of Ukraine and the most widespread language at Ukraine (majority of people at Ukraine consider Russian as their native language and use it in their communication at home).

                  A perfect power usurper, a Nazi and terrorist scum.
                  A beggar and a bloody clown.​
                  More whataboutery. Is that your only resort at this point? I mean look at the human rights abuses perpetrated by Russia. Navalny ring any bells? Whatever elements of truth there are to your accusations, does that give Russia the right to threaten its neighbours? (including large military buildups at the Finnish or Estonian borders who you cannot accuse of violating anything) and besides, cause large scale destruction and devastation in Ukraine, murder civilians, devastate cities? You can blame "NATO expansion" all you like but you sent Scandinavia into the arms of NATO for mutual defence given your posturing.

                  And yeah, terrorism, as always, is a perspective thing. At least they clearly target legitimate military targets, not firing cruise missiles or kamikaze drones into densely populated areas. You easily forget that you are the aggressor here no matter how many contrived and concocted casus belli you try and throw out. Again, remember much about the Budapest Memorandum and your nation's gross violations of it?

                  Tell me, how many have died in the meatgrinder of the Russian military, directly or indirectly, through the acts of Putin? How many more would die if he has his way? You do not commit that level of proportion of GDP to "defence" if you are just literally interested in defence. The constant (attempted) demonstration of your new ICBM capability (no one is falling for there being an announced test and then all trace of it disappears, no reports of anything from the immediate vicinity).

                  It's sad, a culturally-rich country like Russia with so much potential reduced to this. Hopefully it is approaching the "humiliation point" that Nazi Germany had to endure and things will change for the better. For the Russian people and everyone.
                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Serb View Post


                    Article 103 of the Constitution of Ukraine states: "The President of Ukraine is elected by the citizens of Ukraine on the basis of universal, equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot for a period of five years."

                    The Constitutional Court of Ukraine has established that the provisions of article 103 of the Constitution and other articles defining the constitutional and legal status of the President do not contain norms that would establish a different term of office than five years.

                    Article 112 clarifies: "The performance of the duties of the President of Ukraine for the period until the election and assumption of the post of the new President of Ukraine is entrusted to the head of the Parliament of Ukraine."

                    Article 157 says: "The Constitution of Ukraine may not be amended under martial law or a state of emergency."

                    Dmytro Tabachnyk, the author of the Constitution of Ukraine, stated: "Knowing the norms of the Constitution, I can say that, according to Article 103 of the Constitution and the explanation of the Constitutional Court... We can say that after May 20, 2024, Zelensky is not the legitimate leader of Ukraine."

                    So, there is not a single clause in the Constitution of Ukraine on the basis of which Zelensky would have the right to remain president after May 20, 2024.

                    The decisions taken by him and the agreements concluded may not have a legitimate status after the end of martial law, which is extended by Parliament every three months. The head of the Verkhovna Rada (Ukranian parliament), Ruslan Stefanchuk, should become the interim head of state with the right to sign international treaties.

                    Therefore the rest of your post is a total bullsh!t.
                    Oh and the acts “On the Legal Regime of Martial Law” (2015) prohibits the holding of elections during martial law and the Electoral Code of Ukraine (2019) ordains suspension of all elections during such period. Go and check it out Serb if you are so sure...

                    And Wikipedia has a brief summary on the provisions of martial law in Ukraine. I'm afraid Serb you're repeating propaganda hoping no one will fact-check you. You came to the wrong place, buddy.

                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post

                      Oh and the acts “On the Legal Regime of Martial Law” (2015) prohibits the holding of elections during martial law and the Electoral Code of Ukraine (2019) ordains suspension of all elections during such period. Go and check it out Serb if you are so sure...

                      And Wikipedia has a brief summary on the provisions of martial law in Ukraine. I'm afraid Serb you're repeating propaganda hoping no one will fact-check you. You came to the wrong place, buddy.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_Ukraine
                      That or any other article of the Ukrainian constitution doesn't state that presidential term could be prolonged over five years regardless of martial law or not!
                      The constitution is very clear that Ukrainian president has only five years to rule, then he should be re-elected.
                      The Legal Regime of Martial Law indeed prohibits the holding of elections during martial law, but it doesn't prolong the presidential term of the current president, dummy!
                      In that case in accordance with the Article 112 of the Ukrainian constitution:

                      "The performance of the duties of the President of Ukraine for the period until the election and assumption of the post of the new President of Ukraine is entrusted to the head of the Parliament of Ukraine."

                      Is it so hard to understand that for your not corrupted by parroting propaganda half-functioning brain, my dear brainwashed zombie?​

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                      • #26
                        Once again for dummies:

                        No election could be held under the martial law, but when the term of the current president is over his duties should be put on the headc of the Parliament.
                        Period.

                        That is the verdict the Constitutional court of Ukraine has made and that is why Zelensky threw the head of the Constitutional court in jail soon after, thus canceling functioning of Constitutional court in Ukraine.

                        Can anyone of you imagine something like this in USA or UK?

                        In your beloved Nazi puppet such things are normal, a routine.​

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                        • #27
                          given this legal basis it would probably be a good idea for Zelensky to step down and be immediately deputized by the head of parliament to serve as acting president until the next election

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Serb View Post
                            Once again for dummies:

                            No election could be held under the martial law, but when the term of the current president is over his duties should be put on the headc of the Parliament.
                            Period.

                            That is the verdict the Constitutional court of Ukraine has made and that is why Zelensky threw the head of the Constitutional court in jail soon after, thus canceling functioning of Constitutional court in Ukraine.

                            Can anyone of you imagine something like this in USA or UK?

                            In your beloved Nazi puppet such things are normal, a routine.​
                            Tell me, what did the parliament do with that power? Was it...reappointed Zelenskyy? So this argument falls apart very quickly. Also regarding Ukraine's Constitutional Court, well, that is a bit of a relic isn't it? Reform was required before beginning accession talks to the EU so what did you expect? All new appointments are talking place under international supervision. So again, appears to be a case of those in glass houses throwing stones.

                            Your protests here do not stand up to scrutiny, and your objections simply mimic the views of your government desperately trying to maintain influence over Ukraine, a sovereign state. Let's face it, Russia's modus operandi is interference in the affairs of other sovereign states. As a British citizen, we've seen enough of your handiwork.
                            Speaking of Erith:

                            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
                              given this legal basis it would probably be a good idea for Zelensky to step down and be immediately deputized by the head of parliament to serve as acting president until the next election
                              Don't fall for this Russian rhetoric. The parliament overwhelmingly supported the continuation of the presidency of Zelenskyy under these circumstances. You should be aware of this. All Serb is trying to do is further Russian influence by undermining Ukrainian sovereignty. Classic Russian troll tricks.
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Serb View Post

                                That or any other article of the Ukrainian constitution doesn't state that presidential term could be prolonged over five years regardless of martial law or not!
                                The constitution is very clear that Ukrainian president has only five years to rule, then he should be re-elected.
                                The Legal Regime of Martial Law indeed prohibits the holding of elections during martial law, but it doesn't prolong the presidential term of the current president, dummy!
                                In that case in accordance with the Article 112 of the Ukrainian constitution:

                                "The performance of the duties of the President of Ukraine for the period until the election and assumption of the post of the new President of Ukraine is entrusted to the head of the Parliament of Ukraine."

                                Is it so hard to understand that for your not corrupted by parroting propaganda half-functioning brain, my dear brainwashed zombie?​
                                Also I'd kindly request that you argue respectfully too. Your insults are just making you look ridiculous, quite frankly.
                                Speaking of Erith:

                                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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