"Trump is following a playbook written for him by Christian White Nationalists."

[Dauphin]

There's that, but also the way he says "geshtapo." No one in America pronounces it that way. It's like a reverse Inglourious-Basterds-three-finger-gesture shibboleth.

Oh that, I've heard both pronunciations in common use (albeit the sch version comes with a slight imitation accent, similar to pronouncing a w as v sound), so thought nothing of that.

[The Mad Monk]

I've always pronounced it geshtapo, because that's how it's pronounced by the Krauts in the movies and I like to be precise. Like the Krauts in the movies.

[Dauphin]

Pronunciation Nazis.

[Lorizael]

There's always one.

[Geronimo]

So long as US law enforcement is trained to use lethal force whenever they "feel their life if threatened" there will be video's like the death Alex Pretti. If DHS really does direct ICE to cease collateral detentions and that calms down the direct action confrontations leading to an end of this streak of shootings I hope people don't just write it off as having been part of ICE brutality and recognize it as part of the much larger issue of general law enforcement license to kill whenever they "feel" threatened. I could also hope that people stop resorting to "direct action" instead of protests when opposing law enforcement but I'm not that naive.

[Lorizael]

Absolutely wild that you can't tell the difference between ordinary police brutality and masked goons occupying cities with large immigrant populations, rounding up anyone with the wrong skin color or accent, storming private residences without warrants, and also killing protesters who oppose them.

[Geronimo]

Absolutely wild that you can't tell the difference between ordinary police brutality and masked goons occupying cities with large immigrant populations, rounding up anyone with the wrong skin color or accent, storming private residences without warrants, and also killing protesters who oppose them.

It is pure obviously falsifiable BS that they are "rounding up anyone with the wrong skin color or accent" and any law enforcement in the country has a record of killing direct-action activists who oppose them, that was kind of my point. I'll agree with your point however that the massively bipartisan act of congress that gave them the power to basically issue their own warrants was stupid. kudos to you for trying to draw attention to that at the time.

I hope the overall gist of your post wasn't meant to convey that we should be far more concerned when laws and policies that encourage law enforcement to shoot to kill whenever they feel threatened is something that should concern us for ICE vastly more than for other law enforcement because the deaths from the rest of law enforcement overwhelmingly outnumber those from ICE.

[Lorizael]

it is pure obviously falsifiable BS that they are "rounding up anyone with the wrong skin color or accent"

How many videos do you want me to post of ICE officers literally confronting random people and saying, "You don't have the same accent as me, that's why I'm asking you to show me your papers"?

I'll agree with your point however that the massively bipartisan act of congress that gave them the power to basically issue their own warrants was stupid. kudos to you for trying to draw attention to that at the time.

The current 4th amendment violations are a result of a secret DHS memo "authorized" by a Trump executive order, not anything related to the Patriot Act or Dubbaya's circumvention of it through the "unlawful enemy combatants" designation.

[The Mad Monk]

Here, let me do it.

[N35t0r]

It is pure obviously falsifiable BS that they are "rounding up anyone with the wrong skin color or accent" and any law enforcement in the country has a record of killing direct-action activists who oppose them, that was kind of my point. I'll agree with your point however that the massively bipartisan act of congress that gave them the power to basically issue their own warrants was stupid. kudos to you for trying to draw attention to that at the time.

I hope the overall gist of your post wasn't meant to convey that we should be far more concerned when laws and policies that encourage law enforcement to shoot to kill whenever they feel threatened is something that should concern us for ICE vastly more than for other law enforcement because the deaths from the rest of law enforcement overwhelmingly outnumber those from ICE.

They're definitely not just rounding up whoever they can. How could they otherwise keep their high rate of detaining people with a criminal record (or at least with a conviction)?

Wait, what do you mean they have gone from arresting less than 7% people without criminal convictions or an ongoing criminal process to over 43%? Surely that can't be, since they affect just rounding up anyone.

The amount of detailed people with critical convictions has less than doubled (from 9k to 16k people per fortnight) while the amount of detainees with no criminal process or conviction has gone up more than 25 times, from 950 to over 24k.
Under Biden, there used to be twice as many ICE detentions of convicted criminals than of people with an ongoing judicial process, now they're about even.

All clear signs of a careful and considerate approach...

[Lorizael]

I hope the overall gist of your post wasn't meant to convey that we should be far more concerned when laws and policies that encourage law enforcement to shoot to kill whenever they feel threatened is something that should concern us for ICE vastly more than for other law enforcement because the deaths from the rest of law enforcement overwhelmingly outnumber those from ICE.

No, man, my biggest concern is the messy, bloody, lawless, ethnically-targeted mass deportation that I warned over and over again Trump was going to do because he and his cronies promised over and over again that they were going to do it and that they are now in fact doing.

[Broken_Erika]

ICE agent asked why he's taking pictures of a legal observer's car, replies: "Cuz we have a nice little database and now you're considered a domestic terrorist. So have fun with that."

https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/2014752856843161969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2014752856843161969%7Ctwgr%5E429046b1d231860389913e29bcb0fa3b497337fc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.civfanatics.com%2Fthreads%2Fice-in-us-cities.701500%2Fpage-23

[Aeson]

Pete Kegsbreath has an unabashedly Christian Nationalist pastor, who's been leading prayers at official military meetings. And now we are apparently going to fight a holy war to bring about the second coming. (According to 110 complaints brought by soldiers in 40 different units in 30 different military installations.)

https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for

The NCO wrote to the MRFF that their commander “urged us to tell our troops that this was ‘all part of God’s divine plan’ and he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.”