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  • I don't agree with that logic. You do both. And let one catch up before killing high paying jobs of fossil energy side. Again, more people than not think that way also. They voted.

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    • Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
      I don't agree with that logic. You do both. And let one catch up before killing high paying jobs of fossil energy side. Again, more people than not think that way also. They voted.
      Apparently, Trump doesn't agree with your logic either. He's literally stopping development of undeveloped wind power rather than "doing both". I would certainly expect an "energy independence" president to "do both". Instead Trump is halting economically viable privately funded domestically located off-shore wind power development from occurring, without subsidy and he says he's doing it to protect wildlife. Maybe he should call himself the situationally dependent wildlife conscious president but he has no business claiming a title of "energy independence" president after this obviously high priority day one executive order.

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      • The logic here is very simple... The oil and gas industry have paid him off. So he is pro oil/gas and anti everything they don't want.
        Typical Trump
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • Originally posted by Ming View Post
          The logic here is very simple... The oil and gas industry have paid him off. So he is pro oil/gas and anti everything they don't want.
          Typical Trump
          I'd generally agree with you, but in this case it's more that trump has an irrational hatred for wind turbines ever since Vattenfall built a wind park just offshore of his Scottish golf course.
          Indifference is Bliss

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          • Propagandists need pardons too

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            • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

              I'd generally agree with you, but in this case it's more that trump has an irrational hatred for wind turbines ever since Vattenfall built a wind park just offshore of his Scottish golf course.
              I'd say that's a pretty rational hatred 😅

              I love how all the commentators are saying he's so unpredictable - he is one of the most predictable people around!

              The US voted for this **** show - this is on the America people! Don't none of you ****s say you didn't know this was happening!

              There's nothing he's done so far this week that's come as a surprise to me. Nothing! 🙄
              Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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              • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

                I'd generally agree with you, but in this case it's more that trump has an irrational hatred for wind turbines ever since Vattenfall built a wind park just offshore of his Scottish golf course.
                This is the first I'd heard of that but I instantly suspected something like that when I heard he was doing this.

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                • I might consider pardoning Trump if he actually manages to bring back the golden age of TV.
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                • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                  This is the first I'd heard of that but I instantly suspected something like that when I heard he was doing this.
                  Seriously? I don't consume US news, and even I caught wind (pun intended) of his irrational anger towards wind turbines, starting with his calling them windmills.

                  He's claimed they cause cancer. He's suddenly worried about all the birds killed by impact with the blades (although the orders of magnitude higher amount of birds killed by fossil fuel pollution don't matter). He's claimed that offshore wind turbines kills whales (spoiler: no they don't).
                  Indifference is Bliss

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                  • Only flying whales aka birds. But wind turbines are nothing against cats in this regard.
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                    • Disgraced ex-Sen. Bob Menendez sentenced to 11 years in bribery case Menendez made history as the first US Senator to be convicted as a foreign agent

                      this is what a REAL crime looks like. This is what a REAL punishment looks like.

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                        • Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
                          Disgraced ex-Sen. Bob Menendez sentenced to 11 years in bribery case Menendez made history as the first US Senator to be convicted as a foreign agent

                          this is what a REAL crime looks like. This is what a REAL punishment looks like.
                          Says the guy who voted for the convicted felon...
                          Keep on Civin'
                          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • Who got no punishment. Why? There was no real crime. Come on ming... you are not that naive.

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                            • Yeah... a super rich ******* who played the justice system with the support of Judges he appointed and used his running for president gig as a get out of jail free card. Talk about being naive... But then again, you are a Trump supporter...
                              Keep on Civin'
                              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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