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  • #31
    Originally posted by giblets View Post
    IDF says it ‘completely rejects’ charge that its soldiers deliberately fired on any of the thousands of civilians killed in Israeli offensive


    Genocide.
    That is not genocide. Sounds like a war crime though.

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    • #32
      Israel has shown remarkable restraint.
      The Gulf War showed that, because the UN asked it.
      Israel handed out masks and shielded from Scud missiles. Forget all the ancient history
      What would be your attitude?
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      • #33
        The Gulf War happened 35 years ago.

        [Edit:] to put it into context, more than two third of gazans alive before the Israeli invasion hadn't been born yet.
        Indifference is Bliss

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        • #34
          And yet nothing has changed.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #35
            Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
            The Gulf War happened 35 years ago.

            [Edit:] to put it into context, more than two third of gazans alive before the Israeli invasion hadn't been born yet.
            which goes a long way to explain why accusations of genocide are particularly absurd in this case. it would take way, *way* faster civilian death rates to match the Gazan residents natural increase rate (about 61 thousand surplus births per year) let alone exterminate them on a timescale Israel could hope to commit to. Israel is committing and through negligence permitting potential war crimes to occur to achieve its unrealistic war objective (destroy Hamas and find all hostages in Gaza). We should hold Israel to account for that and pressure them to do it in an acceptable way. We sure as hell should not be characterizing it as "genocide" if we want Israelis to take us and what we have to say to them at all seriously.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

              which goes a long way to explain why accusations of genocide are particularly absurd in this case. it would take way, *way* faster civilian death rates to match the Gazan residents natural increase rate (about 61 thousand surplus births per year) let alone exterminate them on a timescale Israel could hope to commit to. Israel is committing and through negligence permitting potential war crimes to occur to achieve its unrealistic war objective (destroy Hamas and find all hostages in Gaza). We should hold Israel to account for that and pressure them to do it in an acceptable way. We sure as hell should not be characterizing it as "genocide" if we want Israelis to take us and what we have to say to them at all seriously.
              I'm pretty sure that you could do whatever the hell you want, and Israel would still take you seriously if you keep sending them several billion dollars per year of aid.
              Indifference is Bliss

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              • #37
                Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

                I'm pretty sure that you could do whatever the hell you want, and Israel would still take you seriously if you keep sending them several billion dollars per year of aid.

                If the US unilaterally dropped its $3.8 billion Camp David accord commitments in response to Israeli conduct in Gaza how much credibility would such commitments have for future peace settlements? More importantly how much change can the US expect from Israel for dropping its aid? a 180 by the IDF? What will the ceasefire state of the Gaza strip be? When Hamas follows up with 7 October part II-the sequel how many Gazan lives will have been spared when the dust settles from the response to that?
                Last edited by Geronimo; August 5, 2024, 19:53. Reason: context

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                • #38
                  You're backing the wrong horse.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                    Israel has shown remarkable restraint.
                    The Gulf War showed that, because the UN asked it.
                    Israel handed out masks and shielded from Scud missiles. Forget all the ancient history
                    What would be your attitude?
                    Slowwie thinks that committing genocide is 'remarkable restraint'

                    Sounds about right 👍
                    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post

                      Slowwie thinks that committing genocide is 'remarkable restraint'

                      Sounds about right 👍
                      where do you see any indication that he recognizes that any genocide is occurring in Gaza at all?

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                      • #41
                        It's not genocide if you say "oopsie"

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by giblets View Post
                          It's not genocide if you say "oopsie"
                          Were the allies in WW2 engaged in genocide? Were all sides in WW2 engaged in genocide? Is first degree murder not first degree murder if you say "oopsie"?
                          Last edited by Geronimo; August 6, 2024, 17:17. Reason: please clarify

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                          • Uncle Sparky
                            Uncle Sparky commented
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                            In the US I don't think you need to say 'oopsie', as long as your skin is lighter than the person you killed, or they tryed to take away your gun.

                        • #43
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                          • #44
                            The problem with stretching definitions is that they loose all meaning.
                            "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                            • Lorizael
                              Lorizael commented
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                              Yes! We must keep our definitions and meanings tight! :P

                          • #45
                            Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                            Were the allies in WW2 engaged in genocide? Were all sides in WW2 engaged in genocide? Is first degree murder not first degree murder if you say "oopsie"?
                            **** WWII. That was over 80 years ago - this is the 21st century!

                            How far back shall we go to justify genocidal atrocities...?

                            What about the ICC and ICJ rulings?

                            There is an international warrant out for Netanyahu for war crimes. If he were to visit most of the rest of the world, including the UK, he would be arrested!

                            It's only countries that don't respect the international rule of law where he's safe to visit, like the US 👎
                            Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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