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    Last edited by Bereta_Eder; April 10, 2024, 07:55.

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    Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
    NYC is allegendly a land where mentally deranged people carry guns and kill you in broad daylight

    so should one take the metro or will he get shot/stabbed?

    Are the buses safe?
    The crime rate peaked in the late 80's early 90's and has been steadily dropping since. It's no longer like a Charles Bronson Deathwish movie.
    I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Broken_Erika View Post

      The crime rate peaked in the late 80's early 90's and has been steadily dropping since. It's no longer like a Charles Bronson Deathwish movie.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City
      this is true. The crime rates are significantly higher in the last 2 years and a nearly 50% increase in violent crimes rates sounds terrifying but the rates rates were literally 600% higher at the peak in 1991. So sure, complaining about the spike in crime might be justified but hyperbole about "unprecedented" or even "historically high" crime is incredibly misleading.

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        I vote above ground. I explored NYC by bicycle in 2022, Manhattan (starting in Inwood and Washington Heights, all the way down the west side, then up the east side a bit) and across into Brooklyn. I saw one homeless guy the whole time, and no one behaving strangely. The trash on the curbs waiting for pickup was a bit odd, but that's just a quirk of the city.

        I don't doubt that quite a few areas were dangerous in the '70s when Live and Let Die was filmed, and I'm sure you could find a high crime neighborhood if you intentionally sought one out. But for anywhere that a tourist is likely to go? It may well be the safest-feeling big city I've visited. Lots of people out and about too, even as the sun was setting.

        I'd also recommend above ground as it gives you a better sense of where you are and the scale of the city. On my previous visit circa 2010, I took the subway, and just emerging from the subway at the highlights, I didn't get nearly as good of a sense of the city as when I could see where I was traveling.

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