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  • #61
    pleased if it happened

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    • #62
      Maybe it was a Hamas rocket
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      • #63
        Interesting dilemma, Israel might have hit a hospital possibly used by Hamas as a base for launching attacks

        reminds me of the hospital in Mariupol... competing propagandists are entertaining

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        • #64
          I'm hearing Israel does not want to send troops into Gaza because they will lose a bunch of soldiers

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          • #65
            Netanyahu moved security from Gaza to the west bank to police the settlements, now if Israel does invade Gaza Hezbelloh and Iran might move on N Israel

            Biden is moving a carrier group and marines into the vicinity, can you remember Beirut? Not too close though, Hamas could hit ships off shore

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
              did Israel and the US help create Hamas to counter the PLO and divide Palestinians?
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              Nope. The US was never involved.

              Based on my historic knowledge, when the Islamic charity precursor to Hamas began, it was turned a blind eye to, because it was assume that Islamists are not nationalist and this will reduce the support for terrorism against Israel. There were people who warned of this, but they were largely ignored. Obviously once they became involved in armed struggle, the blind eye policy was stopped.

              I will say that in the recent decade, it's strongly suspected Bibi saw the continued existence of Hamas in Gaza as a counterweight to Abu Mazen, that would guarantee no coming back to the peace talks (which Bibi is against since he considers any Palestinian state as a threat to Israel). He is criticized for this now. Israel also agreed to money transfers from Qatar hoping that the economic incentive will keep Hamas in check since they need to pay salaries.

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              • #67
                Interesting video, even local danish news are showing something like this - looks like it's Hamas that did it

                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                Steven Weinberg

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                  Interesting video, even local danish news are showing something like this - looks like it's Hamas that did it
                  It also seems like the wreckage https://twitter.com/qudsn/status/1714521896723636575 and https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/stat...34133840728565 is only to the parking lot with some vehicles burnt (and not destroyed) and features no crater, which is consistent with how Hamas/PIJ rockets explode, and not with how MK80/JDAMs explode.

                  This is also strongly suggests that the number of casualties (500 dead) is incredibly inflated. The size of the wreckage and fire simply doesn't add up. It takes days, not hours, to evacuate and identify 500 bodies.

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                  • #69
                    500 is a nice round number.
                    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                    • #70
                      Tony Schaffer thinks it was a Hamas weapon, he said video shows a barrage of rockets heading east toward Israel and one flew off to the side

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