Why do I love America?

[Bereta_Eder]

pretty much everyone considers russia a joke.

if it makes the mistake of atacking a european/NATO state there will be no russia.


so it all boils down to a grottesque bazaar with ukraine, unfortunately.

it is paying the price for a megalomanian mafiozo's dream


russia is less than italy and europe won't ever have to sent his people there because russia will crunmple way before that.

it is a maccabre dance with real human victims

ukraine will be free eventually

but hte blood price it would have paid is huge

I don't see russia coming out of its north korea statue anytime in the next decades


I'm amazied you take russia seriously

noone is

[Berzerker]

the ukranians have a right to be free and live in a democratic state.

so do bellorussians and so do pretty much everyone in the world

Sorry Donbas, no democracy for you

[Bereta_Eder]

donbass didn't have a problem

and if ukraine was left free to integrate more to european structures it would have no problem at all

[Bereta_Eder]

same as russians in latvia don't have a problem

[Berzerker]

althoug of course you're free to disagree with me

which makes your disagreement a bit hilarious because if you were in russia you'd be in jail for not attending dutifully the mafia state's line


these are simple fcats that everyone knows

that is why no sane person is with russia


let me say it again no sane person

Russia is irrelevant, my choice is between the people of the Donbas and the Nazis we armed to kill them

[Bereta_Eder]

as muslims of turkish origin in greece don't have a problem, as roma in romania, as scots in the UK

[Bereta_Eder]

Russia is irrelevant, my choice is between the people of the Donbas and the Nazis we armed to kill them

they are unfortunatly dead now by the russian army


noone "killed" them before

[Bereta_Eder]

the people of donbass as all people want to live ina prosperous democratic wealthy justice ruled state

I'm sure some would like to worship stalin

in their european future that would also be permited

now they can only lick the mafia's boot

some future....

you know the russians are so indiscriminate they f bombed a greek-ukranian funeral once. right in donbass


if you want to listen to russian propaganda thjough you're free and a tiny minority so all is fine

serb will like you

[Berzerker]

Rich people run the world, do rich people really believe in democracy too? I see a conflict of interest.

[Bereta_Eder]

what you rea giving them is to live under a mafia's boot

what others are giving them is a european future with all their rights respected.

there is no choice.

because even if urkanian isnitutions were lacking, through t their integreation to europe they would be democratized.

now all those poor poeple have are people like serb and putin.

codnemned untill they are liberated

[Bereta_Eder]

Rich people run the world, do rich people really believe in democracy too? I see a conflict of interest.

in ancient greece when a perosn would walk in a polis- state ( a city state as you call it) he would know immideieatly if it was a deomcracy

because the rich would fear the poor.

does putin fear anyone in russia?

[Berzerker]

only white male land owners could vote in our democracy, who was allowed to vote in ancient Greece?

[Bereta_Eder]

russia is just like argentina during its junta


ti launched an attack on a sovereign nation to try and remain in power

the only difference is that argentina had the UK against it and Russia has a lookwarm west against it

I find it amazing that you believe that the west has given more than 10% in this conflict

simpyl amazing

[Bereta_Eder]

only white male land owners could vote in our democracy, who was allowed to vote in ancient Greece?

berz we're not going to reinvent demcoracy here it is what it is with all its flaws


why would you condemnt the donbass people to live under venezuela's mandero?

this is what I ask

why?

[Berzerker]

they are unfortunatly dead now by the russian army


noone "killed" them before

in 2014 which way were the guns of the people living in the Donbas pointing, east or west? They voted with their guns and then they voted for Minsk and all this could have been avoided if not for the west wanting a proxy war on Russia's border. The hypocrisy is stunning, if Russia backed a right wing coup in Mexico and sent an army of fanatics to attack people south of our border we'd be in there lickity split, it wouldn't take us 8 years.

[Berzerker]

berz we're not going to reinvent demcoracy here it is what it is with all its flaws


why would you condemnt the donbass people to live under venezuela's mandero?

this is what I ask

why?

Dont know much about Venezuela other than they got oil so we want it and that means waves of Venezuelans impoverished and endangered by our sanctions showing up at the border. The people of the Donbas should self govern, true of false? If false, then who should govern them, Washington or Moscow?

[-Jrabbit]

Interesting (though not surprising) that you don't even acknowledge "Ukraine" as an option for who should govern their own sovereign land.