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Waiting for Serb to tell us why the destruction of the Nova Kakhovka dam was not a war crime.
Or to tell us that it was the Ukraine which demolished it
Or to tell us that it was the Ukraine which demolished it
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Waiting for Serb to tell us why the destruction of the Nova Kakhovka dam was not a war crime.
Or to tell us that it was the Ukraine which demolished it
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Wanting to join the resistance?Originally posted by Serb View Post"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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So, Prigoshin is starting a war against the Russian MoD now?
Sounds like he will soon pass the Rubicon.
I wonder on which side Serb will be
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He said he was going to Moscow. I see this on Reuters https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ve-2023-06-23/ .
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And thats why most try to avoid the use of mercenaries.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Let's hope Serb and Medvedev aren't calling for nukes on Rostov or somesuch nowOriginally posted by Proteus_MST View PostSo, Prigoshin is starting a war against the Russian MoD now?
Sounds like he will soon pass the Rubicon.
I wonder on which side Serb will be
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This is kinda scary. Would it really be that far fetched for Prigo to grab some nukes? Maybe there are some in Rostov??"Comment
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Is Moscow actually going to get captured before Kyiv? Reports are that Piggy at Voronezh. This is incredible!Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post"Comment
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Seems like the Putin-friendly Elites in Moscow assume so.Originally posted by EPW View Post
Seemingly there are more and more private jets in the airspace above Moscow, which either have no stated destination, or destination = Turkey.
Putins Oligarchs seem to flee the sinking ship
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Even if Putin stays in power, he'll probably lash out against anyone who is a traitor (or who is designated as such), so vacation in Turkey looks like a good idea ..-BlahComment
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The president of Kazakhstan, Tokayev, more or less sends thoughts and prayers ...
he tells Putin on the phone, that Putins problems with Wagner are an internal matter for Russia
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How is Prigozhin keeping Wagner mercs on board for this? What is he promising them that could lead them into such danger for which they have such an easy escape?
If they truly are progressing towards Moscow, how is he accomplishing that? If Putin and the military want to stop them, why wouldn't ground attack aircraft make short work of them over open country?
Is the military actually in on it and the real target is Putin?
It all seems fishy.Comment
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Wagner seems to have loyal (to itself) troops. Being sent by the Russian government into a meatgrinder at Bakhmut, the purported supply shortages and yesterday's shelling (real or not) would seem to cement their loyalty.Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
It also seems like a part of the military is all least sympathetic towards him, as evidenced by him having tea with the commander of the southern military district in Rostov last night.
The lack of an the air force showing up is indeed puzzling. Was it not ready for ground attack on such short notice? (Remember that all they've been doing lately is tossing long and medium range missiles at Ukrainian civilians). Maybe Putin (or Shoigu, or whoever) doesn't want to give an order that might be disobeyed. Maybe they're afraid of possible manpads or other AAA in Wagner's column.
They did just bomb the fuel depots in Voronezh, so there's that.
It's at least clear that the military is not a monolith entity.
[Edit:] and up until this morning's address by Putin, Prigozhin was very careful with explicitly stating he was against the top brass of the MoD (Shoygu and co.), and not Putin. After being called a traitor this morning? Now the gloves are off and Putin has tied himself to the 'loyalist' side.Indifference is BlissComment
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