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  • #31
    Period.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Serb View Post
      Ты - еблан!

      No Russsian military unit is named after a Nazi division, unlike Ukranian.
      is there a russian unit named eldewesi yes or no?


      I will post translated the whole responmse of my ukrainian friend

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Broken_Erika View Post
        What exactly is the Russian definition of a Nazi anyway? Anyone who opposes Russian expansionism?
        "Fascism is the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital".

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        • #34
          Nazism is form of facism.

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          • #35
            you know in WWII when russian lines and US lines met... they hugged. they did. there is black and white footage showing it. they shared drinks and even some kisses.

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            • Berzerker
              Berzerker commented
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              I saw it, in the movie Patton... but it was in color

          • #36

            I read the article in your newspaperwith the title "Zelensky praises the Nazi "Edelweiss", which referred to the naming of a Ukrainian military unit. The topic and arguments of the article are roughly the same as the content of other texts which - completely by chance - were published almost simultaneously in many Greek and foreign media. This logic says that since the Ukrainian president named a military unit as "Edelweiss", it means that he approves of the atrocities of the Nazi killers who had a military unit with the same name. As an argument, the "Continental Struggle" article cites the "decision of the Ioannina Sectoral Committee of the KKE". However, I consider these conclusions not only exaggerated but also intentionally misleading, arguments that are part of the communication war that Moscow has launched against Europe.
            First of all, Ukrainian President Zelensky is not personally involved in inventing names for the various military units. He himself is Jewish and his relatives were murdered by Nazis during the German invasion. So probably, if he had knowledge of this matter, he might not have approved this decision. Then the name "Edelweiss" is the name of a widespread flower, which grows at high altitudes, on the mountains, mainly in the Alps and elsewhere. Therefore many military units - mainly based in mountainous areas - have exactly the same name. It is not some rare word, like a name. "Edelweiss" military unit exists in France, Poland and - for 30 years - also exists in Altai, a mountainous region of Russia.
            That is, the Russians, who are spreading this propaganda, have a military unit with the exact same name. In addition, in the Russian army there are the units "Viking" and "North" - corresponding names had military units of the SS in WWII. And let's not forget of course the private paramilitary organization that is the spearhead of Putin's army called "Team Wagner" which - according to the testimonies - has been named in honor of "Hitler's favorite composer". So it makes more sense to say that it is Putin who "glorifies Nazism" and not Zelensky.
            Putin's Russia has turned into a fascist regime, its propaganda arguments copy and surpass Goebbels in insanity, the "superiority" of the "special role of Russians compared to other peoples" is projected, while all the actions of the Russian army in Ukraine have serious evidence (now evidence) of genocide. Yet the authors of such articles (and those who relay such arguments) choose to stand on one word and ignore the mass killings of civilians, the violent displacement of millions, the abduction of thousands of children, the rape of women and children, the destroyed cities. All of what the Nazis did in WW2 and what Putin's army is doing today. They choose to ignore the real facts and deceive the public with "mirrors".
            Now regarding the views of the "Ioannina Sectoral Committee of the KKE" and its sensitivity to Nazi atrocities. Perhaps some in Greece forget this, but the communist USSR was an ally of Nazi Germany from August 23, 1939 until June 22, 1941, when Hitler unilaterally violated the agreement and attacked the USSR. During this time "Gunderian's tanks went all the way to the sea at Abbeville with Soviet fuel, the German bombs which leveled Rotterdam were filled with Soviet gunpowder and the film of bullets which struck the retreating British soldiers with boats from Dunkirk, were made of Soviet copper-nickel alloy" according to what USSR Foreign Minister Molotov himself said. USSR attacked Poland together with Hitler,
            Let me remind you that the Nazi invasion of Greece began on April 6, 1941, when the Nazis were still allied with the Soviets. And the Soviets had no objection to this invasion. So perhaps, since the "Ioannina Sectoral Committee of the KKE" is so sensitive about the crimes of the Nazis in our country and elsewhere, it should start with the official repudiation of Stalin (Hitler's ally) and then deal with various linguistic phenomena – names – mountain flowers and such.

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            • Berzerker
              Berzerker commented
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              who do you think will kill Zelensky if he tries to make peace?

              CIA or Azov... or both

            • Serb
              Serb commented
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              Berz, I can add CIA and MI6 to your line, but who cares?
              The Russians will be blamed in any case as always.

          • #37
            Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post

            is there a russian unit named eldewesi yes or no?
            No!
            The unit of which ensignia you have posted is named "Avangard", not "Edelweiss"


            I will post translated the whole responmse of my ukrainian friend
            You can suck your Nazi Ukraninan friend for all you care.

            Last edited by Serb; February 18, 2023, 04:38.

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            • #38
              Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
              you know in WWII when russian lines and US lines met... they hugged. they did. there is black and white footage showing it. they shared drinks and even some kisses.
              Thanks, Cap!

              We were allies back then, untill the moment you have decided you should kill us.

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              • #39
                i posted the reply

                and I repeat


                urkiane is news item #8


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                • #40
                  also serb to make it clear to you

                  i don't care about the US or russia but about a free democratic self suffiecient socialist europe


                  I think US if fcked
                  I think russia is on par with 3rd world and china

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                  • #41
                    Originally posted by Serb View Post

                    Thanks, Cap!

                    We were allies back then, untill the moment you have decided you should kill us.
                    the US had nukes first - the US didnt go after russia than (there were those who said the US should).... the US is not going after russia now.

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                    • #42
                      Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                      also serb to make it clear to you

                      i don't care about the US or russia but about a free democratic self suffiecient socialist europe


                      I think US if fcked
                      I think russia is on par with 3rd world and china
                      And let me guess, You think that Greece is a perfect garden, surrounded by a fkn jugles, as your EU master have said.

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                      • #43
                        No Greece has many problems

                        but we are democratic free and rich (socially just)

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                        • #44
                          Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post

                          the US had nukes first - the US didnt go after russia than (there were those who said the US should).... the US is not going after russia now.
                          You had no balls for that. You had just few a nuke bombs and your means of delivery were far from perfect, while USSR had the largest and the best battle-hardened conventional army.

                          And when you hade more that just a few bombs, we already had our owns nukes.

                          Simple as that.
                          But that doesn't defy the fact that you had plans to exterminate us made as soon as 1945, when we were celebrating a common victory over Nazism.
                          Last edited by Serb; February 18, 2023, 04:42.

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                          • #45
                            Originally posted by Serb View Post

                            You had no balls for that. You had just few nuke bombs, while USSr had the largest and the best conventional army.

                            And when you hade more that just a few bombs, we already have our owns nukes.

                            Simple as that.
                            and the US and Russia do the ISS. there are hugs there too.

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                            • Serb
                              Serb commented
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                              The ISS is a Soviet technology at 75%. The Soviets had the most, if not sole experience with the orbital stations. USA had one Skylab, while Soviets had eight orbital stations. Without Russia ISS would have neber exist and that was a form of technological robbery by USA.
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