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I am willing to learn. With 500 million guns loose in the USA, how will "gun control" stop criminals from getting one? It would definately stop law abiding people like me from getting one, but then...I am not the problem. How do we stop criminals from getting guns is the real question. All the laws in the world will not stop the black market. Maybe it would help with the "casual" criminal? I don't know. What I do know is that if an armed criminal invades my house, I don't want to be standing there with a butter knife. Those of you so for gun control...I am truly interested in a solution that works. I just don't think adding "bans" or useless laws is a real answer when the country is so flooded with weapons. Would love to get on board with something that would actually help though......
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"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003 -
gun control certainly doesn't have to stop law abiding citizens from getting guns. It can focus on making the penalties for unauthorized persons found to be in possession of guns much harsher for example.Originally posted by PLATO View PostComment
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A lot more people were shot... 'Merca!
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.Comment
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Not sure that helps, given that most mass shootings are with legally obtained guns. And the shooter is probably expecting to die before they even get a change to step into a courtroom.Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
Maybe it would help with armed robberies and stuff like that (assuming those guns used are typically illegally obtained). Seperately, I'm doubtful of the deterrence effect of harsher sentencing.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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I think it helps best if combined with a program to confiscate and destroy the contraband.Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
Of course I'm personally fine with additionally applying similar levels of hurdles to legal gun ownership as there are to driving automobiles with different class licenses for different kinds of firearms.
Sure, criminals will obtain the weapons illicitly, but impulse criminals will hit a speed bump and legal gun owners can meet the requirements.
I get especially frustrated with people who oppose such modest measures (or increasing enforcement of existing similar measures) but somehow have no problem with additional hurdles to voting, for example, even if those requirements solely serve to reassure a minority of voters that don't trust the existing safeguards.Comment
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Well, one thing is for sure:
Had all school children in the class room carried guns, the shooting would have been over very fast.
Therefore my proposal is:
Make regulations, that every teacher and every pupil has tpo come to school armed, so that arms in law abiding hands will be able to stop any school massacre.
Also the school massacres prove, that the anti-abortionists are right.
You need to stop all abortions in the USA, in order to compensate for the losses (due to mass shootings) by having a higher birth rate.
I am sure that everyone with half a brain will agree that everyone said above is totally correct.
N.b.:
Be aware that everything written above may contain a wholla lotta sarcasm
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"Comment
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So, in the case of hospital shootings, should all hospital staff be required to carry guns, or just patients and visitors? And will hospital morgue workers be allowed to take guns once a person is declared dead, or must they wait for 'cold, dead hands' to set in? Will there be a requirement to keep the safety on while anesthetized?
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.Comment
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And I'll need this one clarified...
A man on his own property shooting at passing cars is arrested for killing someone.
Obviously self defense, in the same way Zimmerman was 'self defense', but this murderer didn't actively hunt anyone. I know three men in Georgia were convicted of murdering a man they hunted down, but they were using trucks. (I know it is illegal to hunt from moving vehicles in Manitoba, so I'm guessing using trucks was the sticking point.)
Please clarify.
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.Comment
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Well if you ban guns you ban guns for everyone.
Having a gun here (not a hunting rifle, - a gun) is extremely rare. It is extremely rare for criminals to fire a weapon either because the penalties are scorching.
Also I think that having a blanket ban makes it much more difficult for ANYONE, balanced law abiding citizen, psycho, or criminal to get guns.
They can still get kalasnikovs from Albania but you can't really pass unoticed carrying a kalasnikioff in the middle of athens.Comment
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The limiting of guns is one facet of the problem.
If it were only guns then countries that have half the guns of the US would have half the shooting sprees.
And they have none.
So it is not just the guns but deep seated socio-economic problems
(it looks like I'm targeting the US but I'm not, it's just the conversation. I'd love to have a 3 month road trip there)Comment
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I don't know, Breivik killed a lot of people?Comment
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School shootings are almost all perpetrated by school age teens. And, they almost always discuss their plans ahead of time.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Hahahahaha! Funny satirical law from Ohio. I'm sure The Onion is behind this 'law'!There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.Comment
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This would be great fun for Americans -
Find out the average cost of processing a cheque.
Every mass shooting, mail your favourite GOP local leader a cheque for 'thoughts and prayers' plus a few cents (not enough to cover processing).
If you could convince your friends and coworkers to do this, it might cost them a few thousand per mass shooting.
Comedy.
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.Comment
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Yeah, this is like snarking on Twitter except instead of the other monkeys clapping and cheering you get a single campaign volunteer rolling their eyes and throwing it away, and you don't even get to see that. Also this would presumably cost at least [current price of a stamp and an envelope] per person so I question who's really getting screwed here. -
You're both right, they should just mail bullets instead. That'll shut them down for the afternoon, at least...
P.S. Don't mail bullets.
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Is this really the way to go? I'm afraid sending all those thoughts and prayers could have a tremendous impact in supporting those folks....
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