The not drunk thread

[Jon Miller]

I am not drunk. I wish there was a drug I enjoyed. Open to suggestions!

Coffee

JM

[Jon Miller]

I keep thinking about trying nicotine. It is supposedly the only drug that actually improves mental performance consistently (amphetamines and caffeine give improvements in some situations, I think, but not under continued use).

JM

[Jon Miller]

The problem wit nicotine is long use it kills you.

JM

[Bereta_Eder]

No no no. Don't do it.

There are few things stupider than starting smoking.

nicotine doesn't give you any boost. Memory or otherwise.

ANd smoking simply creates an addiction whose cravings you can contro. And thus you think you control your life but you don't. You simply manage your self induced withdrawl symptoms.

I guess there is one good thing about smoking and that is that when you quit you understand the word freedom and you feel like a mind fog has been lifted.

But to think about starting to smoke, when you don't, that's immensly dumb

and yes you will die of lung cancer or suffocate to death through major resspiratory failing which you will get if you're lucky and don't doe of cancer.

and all that so that you can fool yourself that you "control" your life


cockypop

[Bereta_Eder]

If you opt for electronic cigarretes you might die from a novelty disease called sudden lung collapse instead of lung cancer. Which is somewhat faster.

all the other things about smoking stay true

[Jon Miller]

What about chewing nicotine gum?

Of course, I hate smoke and gum.

JM

[Jon Miller]

The thing is that I am very use to the tricks of coffee... the requirement of drinking caffeine in order to remove the mental fog that hits due to it being about a day since you last had coffee.

Wish I could get coffee without that.

JM

[SuperSneak]

I will second the sentiment on smoking/nicotine. I picked it up in Japan many years ago, after spending the whole summer saying "no, I'm not a smoker". And then I had a moment of weakness and was basically hooked from the first puff. Let me tell you, I've walked away from many an addictive habit and that one has proven impossible so far.

[Bereta_Eder]

What about chewing nicotine gum?

Of course, I hate smoke and gum.

JM

nicotine is a drug into itself. The fact that you don't also get the tar doesn't prevent the elongation of the life of cells. Nicotine prevents the ekptosis, the degradation of the cells and their healthy replacement with new vibrant healthy cells.

You walk around with zombie cells that can of course give you cancer too.

That's also where the myth of the "better memory" comes from. Your neurons "live longer" artificially with nictotine hence you remember better.

Looks good on paper not on real life. And even if I could be remembering the name of an acquintance for 3 more days than normal, I'd not sacrifice my own life in order to do it.
I'm not that social.

[Bereta_Eder]

I will second the sentiment on smoking/nicotine. I picked it up in Japan many years ago, after spending the whole summer saying "no, I'm not a smoker". And then I had a moment of weakness and was basically hooked from the first puff. Let me tell you, I've walked away from many an addictive habit and that one has proven impossible so far.

I was suprised to see how easy it was to quit - ONCE you decide, irrevoquably, that it is a fundamentally stupid thing to do and it only, only causes you harm.

I had to have a major health scare in order to screw that way of thinking into my brain, but once I did, I gave up smoking in 1 day, for ever. And I smoked 2 packs a day

Goes to show the power of convictions.

[SuperSneak]

You are obviously vastly more powerful than I am.

[Jon Miller]

I have heard many people saying that they could give up heroin/etc but couldn't stop smoking.

And for so long smoking has been a leading cause of death.

JM

[Jon Miller]

nicotine is a drug into itself. The fact that you don't also get the tar doesn't prevent the elongation of the life of cells. Nicotine prevents the ekptosis, the degradation of the cells and their healthy replacement with new vibrant healthy cells.

You walk around with zombie cells that can of course give you cancer too.

That's also where the myth of the "better memory" comes from. Your neurons "live longer" artificially with nictotine hence you remember better.

Looks good on paper not on real life. And even if I could be remembering the name of an acquintance for 3 more days than normal, I'd not sacrifice my own life in order to do it.
I'm not that social.

I never studied this enough to know the actual mechanism that was claimed.

JM

[Bereta_Eder]

I have heard many people saying that they could give up heroin/etc but couldn't stop smoking.

And for so long smoking has been a leading cause of death.

JM

Now you made me feel that I am special but I really don't think I am.

Mind over matter. That simple.

[Bereta_Eder]

I never tried heroine ( ) but I am sure it must be a 100th more severe drug that nicotine.

Have you actual friends that said that, or did you just parrot what tabaco companies claim?

Quiting smoking is nothing

The higher death toll is not a testament to nicotine's more severe addiction than heroine ( ) just that there are other mechanisms at work and that nicotine is way more widespread.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

dang, with all the JM posts I thought it was Serb for a minute there.