Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[My Wife Hates CIV]

after some 58 or something pages... the answer is NEVER. maybe a new thread is needed.

[Berzerker]

so we're at cold war again

ty Brandon... and the GOP wont impeach him because they love war too, not much $$$ in peace when all your country produces are bombs and bullets

[pchang]

And in that same war, US fighters shot down Russian Migs flown by Russian pilots.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

He's got a point, PLATO.

We were also in direct combat with the Chinese army not even pretending to be anything else AFAIK -my 19 year-old dad pulled a couple dead ones out of a river- and nobody ever talks about the war we had with China in 1952, ever.

[Dinner]

U.S. admits providing targeting data and specific co-ordinates for Ukrainian HIMARS.

So...we have U.S. weapons, U.S. ammunition, U.S. targeting, and U.S. trained Ukrainians operating this system. Thank goodness we are not directly involved in this war!

All of that has been known since HIMARs were given to them half a year ago. Plus it is no more than the Soviets or Chinese did in Vietnam yet no one would say either of those two states were directly at war with the U.S. or South Vietnam. Rather just standard cold war stuff.

[PLATO]

U.S. admits providing targeting data and specific co-ordinates for Ukrainian HIMARS.

So...we have U.S. weapons, U.S. ammunition, U.S. targeting, and U.S. trained Ukrainians operating this system. Thank goodness we are not directly involved in this war!

[PLATO]

Tank floodgates are opening as Ukraine is helping Panther get off the ground:

Ukraine's Arsenal of Western Tanks Poised to Get Another Upgrade (msn.com)

[Berzerker]

This will probably have enormous impact. Without Starlink, I don't think Ukraine has any communication lines to support attacks and even if only drone strikes are eliminated Ukraine has clearly been leveraging them heavily all across the front.

I suspect the Biden WH is behind that, we dont want Ukraine hitting targets deeper into Russia

[pchang]

Well - Russia has threatened "consequences". Perhaps they will make Serb happy and declare War on the USA.

[PLATO]

no mention of Russia wanting to avoid enormous lawsuits for failure to deliver?

I think that is the real reason that Russia blew up the pipelines. Failure to deliver is probably mitigated by terrorist destroying the ability to deliver.

[PLATO]

Exactly! I doubt credible sources would pick him to reveal anything like this given his age and the controversy that still stims from his Bin Laden "theories".

[Geronimo]

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh says U.S. and Norway blew up Nordstream pipelines:

Seymour Hersh claims US Navy behind Nord Stream 2 pipeline explosion (nypost.com)

Russia, amazingly, agrees.

no mention of Russia wanting to avoid enormous lawsuits for failure to deliver?

[Jon Miller]

He is 85 years old? How much of the investigation is he doing now?

JM

[PLATO]

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh says U.S. and Norway blew up Nordstream pipelines:

Seymour Hersh claims US Navy behind Nord Stream 2 pipeline explosion (nypost.com)

Russia, amazingly, agrees.

[Geronimo]

This will probably have enormous impact. Without Starlink, I don't think Ukraine has any communication lines to support attacks and even if only drone strikes are eliminated Ukraine has clearly been leveraging them heavily all across the front.