Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Berzerker]

Yes. He should've watched as Nazis slaughtered eastern Ukrainians because as anyone who has followed 21st military interventions should know, invading a country to stop slaughters as a rule massively increases the slaughter. Putin's decision to military intervene was incredibly stupid. Furthermore there is zero evidence of ethnic cleansing in pre-special operation independent Ukraine, so there really wasn't any 'slaughter' to watch, let alone stop.

Also, if shelling civilian areas during a hot war is 'slaughtering', then any planned intervention to stop that, should, at a bare minimum, refrain from shelling civilian areas dontcha think?

The USA wouldn't have waited 8 years. Thousands more would have died but they fled Azov and Russia intervened twice to stalemate their advances. That may have been when the west became amenable to Minsk to give Ukraine time to arm. Where did the millions of refugees go? Most went to Russia or parts of eastern Ukraine not under attack. The Ukrainian right wing - the muscle behind the Maidan coup and Donbas war - practices cultural cleansing. And I imagine they'd drive undesirables out of the country, so that would include dissenters of all stripes. Pretty much like Syria, we used fanatics to attack Russia in the name of democracy, mom, and apple pie.

I thought we won the cold war, why are we still fighting it? Money and power... So greed is our downfall. We bully everyone we can into doing what we want and China runs around playing peacemaker to our profitable conflicts. And they're doing it with wealth acquired from Americans. I hope the average American consumer prefers China using their money to make peace over Washington's efforts to create conflict. Hey, here's an idea... Lets plop an army down near Muslim holy sites to kill Iraqis and when pissed off Muslims attack us we can invade more of the Middle East.

Who started the shelling? Maybe we should deal with that before venturing into the ramifications of killing the innocent by accident with counter attacks on those doing the shelling. I believe the people of the Donbas had no moral obligation to support a right wing coup that drove the man they overwhelmingly elected from office. I believe they had the right to defend themselves when that right wing sent an army to attack them. I dont see any way around it, their moral high ground is blocking my view of Kiev.

[Uncle Sparky]

May the borscht be with you.

[Geronimo]

Putin could have watched as Nazis slaughtered eastern Ukrainians and ignored the Russians who wanted to help defend them, but the USA wouldn't sit by as Russia toppled the Mexican govt and sent an army north to attack "separatists" along our border.

Biden supporters accused Trump of being a threat to Nato and Joe has a rebellion on his hands because of the neocon war in Ukraine. Why would our Nato allies blame the USA? Our empire is collapsing, lets go Brandon.

Yes. He should've watched as Nazis slaughtered eastern Ukrainians because as anyone who has followed 21st military interventions should know, invading a country to stop slaughters as a rule massively increases the slaughter. Putin's decision to military intervene was incredibly stupid. Furthermore there is zero evidence of ethnic cleansing in pre-special operation independent Ukraine, so there really wasn't any 'slaughter' to watch, let alone stop.

Also, if shelling civilian areas during a hot war is 'slaughtering', then any planned intervention to stop that, should, at a bare minimum, refrain from shelling civilian areas dontcha think?

[Berzerker]

Putin could have watched as Nazis slaughtered eastern Ukrainians and ignored the Russians who wanted to help defend them, but the USA wouldn't sit by as Russia toppled the Mexican govt and sent an army north to attack "separatists" along our border.

Biden supporters accused Trump of being a threat to Nato and Joe has a rebellion on his hands because of the neocon war in Ukraine. Why would our Nato allies blame the USA? Our empire is collapsing, lets go Brandon.

[Dinner]

There we go with the fake coupe lies again. Yes, people protested a corrupt government and the corrupt president fleed to his daddy in Moscow but he was legally removed according to the constitutionally mandated process. So, please explain how the parliament following the constitutional process for removing a corrupt President is somehow a "coupe".

[pchang]

More likely for Serb to suffer a myocardial infarction while trying to dig the grave.

[pchang]

Well, Russian troops dug up the Red Forest and irradiated themselves earlier. So, this is not surprising at all.

[BeBMan]

[BeBMan]

Now it's the USA's fault.

First they made Putin attack Ukraine, now this. Was Putin ever in control of anything

[PLATO]

Now it's the USA's fault.

Serb will bury us!

[N35t0r]

Now it's the USA's fault.

[BeBMan]

An ass-ass-ination of Putin would make him a triple ass. At least.

[Berzerker]

Scott Horton doesn't think it was an assassination attempt, just a message to Putin and morale boost for Ukrainians. All depends on what was onboard, the explosion was from fuel when the wing was torn off by the flagpole. I hope they dont find "made in USA" on it and a large explosive that failed to detonate.

[Berzerker]

A Ukrainian drone blew up a flag poll on top of the Kremlin so Putin lies and claims it was an assassination attempt against him even though he was no where near the flag poll.
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The flag pole blew up the drone and of course it was an assassination attempt, the flag pole got it in the way.

[Berzerker]

Berz, your Nuland comment was a convenient deflection, not addression the Dinner post you were quoting.
It happens a lot. Increasingly, in my view. Just an observation.

I'm really just hoping for a little more cohesion in the thread. Makes for easier reading.

I didn't quote him, he responded to my comment about Nuland

"Crimea, as an internationally recognized part of Ukraine, has always been a legitimate target."

Okay... I didn't argue otherwise, I just dont see why its relevant to my theory Nuland was warning Russia.