Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Serb]

Seeing reports that Ukraine is telling Pentagon that they are close to a breakthrough

(and at the same time make a decree to reserve 200 000 new graves.

My guess is that they will have a little maneuver room between 1st and 2nd line of defense and will make limited progress before things slow down again.

They didn't reach our first line of defense since June 4, you brainwashed idiot!!!

Putting Tokmak in range of tube artillery would be a significant advance though. Tokmak is strategically significant in that it controls the east-west rail line and is a surface road hub. Russia loses that and logistics become enormously more difficult for their southern army. Getting it under fire control will start a process of seriously degrading Russia's ability to continue a robust combat regime north of Melitopol.

You can wet dream and directly command your Ukranian puppets, as long as you like!
But you will still suck in reality!

Because you are NOTHING against us!

A self-PRed clowns!

[Serb]

Looks like a couple of squads in a raid on a long range radar station. Quick in and out.

Nobody to out - all dead.

[Serb]

Amphibious landing in Western Crimea?

Sucking your ****?

[Serb]

Excellent news.

Now all we need is confirmation that Surovikin has accidentally fallen out of a window after drinking polonium tea.

You call a terror act an excellent news?

WTF are you, if not an Ukraninian terrorist regime supporter?

Just stop for a second and realize that you are supporting an act of terrorism, imbecile!

[Serb]

Пошел ты на хуй, тупорылый пидор!
A Fuking LIAR, living in your own American False Universe.
Пошел в хуй, мудак тупорылый!!!

[PLATO]

The U.S. has sent Ukraine $46.6 billion in military aid (this would rank 10th in the world for military budgets). This level of support will start to get politically difficult for either party to continue. (This doesn't consider Europe's contributions)

Part of the overlooked facts here are that the U.S. and Europe are actively working to stand up the Ukrainian defense industry. Zelensky plans for Ukraine to be a major arms exporter after the war.

This is, in some sense, a race to see if that can happen in a significant way prior to political support for the money flow begins to wane. It is clear, however, that at some point unlimited aid has to end simply because it isn't sustainable unless the West moves more to a war footing. THAT would really be politically untenable.

[pchang]

Let's see who the Republican nominee is to be sure.

[Geronimo]

there is obvious republican presidential candidate aversion to further support for Ukraine. Ukraine has to make it work before jan 2025 or the dems have to win the presidency for Ukraine to not be in serious trouble by jan 2025

[PLATO]

Seeing reports that Ukraine is telling Pentagon that they are close to a breakthrough.

My guess is that they will have a little maneuver room between 1st and 2nd line of defense and will make limited progress before things slow down again. Putting Tokmak in range of tube artillery would be a significant advance though. Tokmak is strategically significant in that it controls the east-west rail line and is a surface road hub. Russia loses that and logistics become enormously more difficult for their southern army. Getting it under fire control will start a process of seriously degrading Russia's ability to continue a robust combat regime north of Melitopol.

[PLATO]

Amphibious landing in Western Crimea?

Looks like a couple of squads in a raid on a long range radar station. Quick in and out.

[pchang]

Amphibious landing in Western Crimea?

[Thoth]

The good news just keeps coming. :b

[N35t0r]

Yeah, I'll give it to Putin, credit where credit is due, he has made a huge inroad into denazification today.

[BeBMan]

If Utkin is gone too denazification would make a huge leap forward:

Among those presumed dead alongside the Wagner leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, in a plane crash near Moscow was Dmitry Utkin, who was often described as the founder or co-founder of the mercenary group although his exact role was disputed.

His own call sign was “Wagner”, after Hitler’s favourite composer. The investigative website Bellingcat wrote in 2020 that Utkin had “an obsessive fascination with the history of the Third Reich” while another recent report described him as “festooned with numerous Nazi tattoos, including a swastika, a Nazi eagle, and SS lightning bolts”. The Wagner group was apparently named after him.

However, according to a 2020 report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, an American thinktank, “it cannot be verified whether Utkin initiated the establishment of Wagner group or was only a frontman for someone else”.

(...)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/24/who-was-dmitry-utkin-wagner-commander-plane-crash-yevgeny-prigozhin

[Thoth]

Excellent news.

Now all we need is confirmation that Surovikin has accidentally fallen out of a window after drinking polonium tea.