Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Berzerker]

The evidence has already been posted, Nato Secy Gen admitted they rejected Russia's deal to keep Ukraine out of Nato in the summer/fall of '21 and in March '22 Russia advanced on Kiev to pressure Zelensky and he made a deal and Russia withdrew from Kiev. Biden sent Boris over to educate Zelensky about our goal for Ukraine and peace was not in their future. So he could either choose to play the role and make millions, maybe a billion, or get assassinated like his peace negotiator did on March 5 2022.

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

The news highlights the impact of former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s efforts to stop negotiations, as journalist Branko Marcetic noted on Twitter. The decision to scuttle the deal coincided with Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to break off talks with Russia for two key reasons: Putin cannot be negotiated with, and the West isn’t ready for the war to end.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/02/diplomacy-watch-why-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/

[Berzerker]

probably for his own protection... if Nazis were pissed off at my friend and firing him removed him from potential crosshairs I'd consider it a wise move

[Ming]

Putin has been offering peace deals for over 2 years, Nato/Biden said "NYET"... Once Russia is ready to send in the reserves and no deal is made and/if the ground can support heavy machinery the push will come. Maybe... is there a need for it? Russia can sit back and take advantage of their defensive lines while Biden badgers Zelensky into more 'counter offensives'.

Biden made Zelensky a better offer... and Azov wouldn't kill him.

and... no, Zelensky couldn't kill Azov and if he tried they'd/we'd kill him. You already know Zelensky got elected to make peace and when he showed up in the Donbas Azov sent him packing with his tail between his legs. He's an actor playing a role and trying to stay alive. When Azov objected to his friend and adviser Zelensky sent his friend packing.

Please provide proof of all of your wild ass theories... especially the exact peace deals you keep talking about. And actual proof that it is NATO/Biden that is turning them down, and that Biden is in charge of the Ukraine military actions... or are you just sprouting more stuff that you have seen in internet videos.

[Berzerker]

Biden made Zelensky a better offer... and Azov wouldn't kill him.

and... no, Zelensky couldn't kill Azov and if he tried they'd/we'd kill him. You already know Zelensky got elected to make peace and when he showed up in the Donbas Azov sent him packing with his tail between his legs. He's an actor playing a role and trying to stay alive. When Azov objected to his friend and adviser Zelensky sent his friend packing.

[Geronimo]

Putin has been offering peace deals for over 2 years, Nato/Biden said "NYET"... Once Russia is ready to send in the reserves and no deal is made and/if the ground can support heavy machinery the push will come. Maybe... is there a need for it? Russia can sit back and take advantage of their defensive lines while Biden badgers Zelensky into more 'counter offensives'.

suppose Ukraine and Putin say "Da" to a peace deal Berz. How does Nato/Biden say "NYET"? use Azov to kill Zelensky's family? Couldn't Zelensky and Putin kill Azov instead? Really, what possible leverage would Nato/Biden have to force an unwanted war on Putin/Zelensky?

[Berzerker]

Putin has been offering peace deals for over 2 years, Nato/Biden said "NYET"... Once Russia is ready to send in the reserves and no deal is made and/if the ground can support heavy machinery the push will come. Maybe... is there a need for it? Russia can sit back and take advantage of their defensive lines while Biden badgers Zelensky into more 'counter offensives'.

[BeBMan]

Is Belarus pessimistic about the big push south? Or is Putin still alive and sends out his underling to beg for peace in three days?? So many questions and no youtube vid

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-lukashenko-ukraine-russia-war-peace-talks-b2438217.html

[BeBMan]

Just read about this, second guy in a year. I think he was planned to go to a hospital first to properly fall out of the hospital window like the earlier chap to avoid any supicions, but something went wrong...

[Berzerker]

Putin was skating around the outside of the rink next to the wall before a hockey game and someone had laid out a small carpet for some reason and Vlad hit that and face planted... that was a few years ago.

[Berzerker]

WWII? Gee, what happened back then to kill so many Russians? This is how the Canadian parliament ends up giving a standing ovation to Nazis

[Berzerker]

Putin called that denazifying Ukraine

[BeBMan]

The Kremlin has rejected speculation about Vladimir Putin’s health, saying the president is fit and well.

In a regular call with reporters, Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesperson, also denied suggestions that the Russian leader was using body doubles, calling them an “absurd hoax”.(...)

From https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...0808b5315ba0ea


I guess that settles it...

[Dauphin]

I think they are confusing it with a sudden heart failure and death of another Lukoil executive. Russia suspects foul play as this executive failed to fall out of the window like the last one.

[pchang]

Fembot assassination attempt.

[-Jrabbit]

Wow, one paragraph with so many misleading, unsupported claims.

"I wouldn't be surprised" = I have no proof.
"I keep hearing" = I keep repeating without evidence.
"Putin wanted to end the war in the Donbas" = One one condition: Putin wanted the Donbas, nothing less.
"but the neocons tried" = Blame the unnamed as a bogeyman.