Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Geronimo]

Your American word weights NOTHING!!!

And you have clearly demonstrated that to the rest of the World during the last 30 years.
You have broken, rapped and annihilated the international law by all possible means you like during that period. You have destroyed the whole conception of the international law and now want to substitute it with some kind of mysterious "rules" known only to you and your Western lackeys.

Not to mention all your illegal wars of agression, your every new administration claims that it has no responsibility for the treaties the previous one have signed and sees nothing wrong with that!

You have broken all possible internetional agreements you have signed from the climate change and free trade to the key strategical agreements about World's security and peace.
Just a few example of key strategic agreements you have broken:
- the Anti-ballistic missile treaty (ABMT)
- the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BTWC)
- the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INFT)
- the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons treaty (NPT)
- the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC)
- the Treaty on Open Skies
- the nuclear treaty with Iran

Your word is NOTHING, Americans!
Absolutely NOTHING!!!

-ABMT -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BTWC) -bure bull****, no evidence and no incentive.
- the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INFT) -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons treaty - I'll hear you out on this. I don't agree the US is violating the treaty.
- the Chemical Weapons Convention - At least the US is destroying them properly. Definitely not violating the spirit of the treaty. Lawsuits and nimbyism have made the process excruciatingly slow.
- the Treaty on Open Skies -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the nuclear treaty with Iran - I agree that this was a violation of a signed agreement by Trump that harms international law.

However US behavior on the world stage is demonstrably curtailed by international law.

[Geronimo]

This is a lie!
USSR had never have a concept of "firestorm" bombing to intentionally destroy cities and have never build strategic bombers for that concept.
We've builded airplanes of battlefield, you have builded airplanes for mass murdering.

You can't name a single fact of Soviet bombings like Dresden.



This is another lie!
Unlike your Ukrainian Nazi puppets we do not aim civilian targets.

You can't name a single city which was intentionally destroyed by us like you have leveled Fallujah. You have leveled it to the ground intentionally, just like many other Iraq cities. You've never cared about civilians there, because they are not humans for you at all, just ragheads.

bull****. As assessed by compensation claims 10,000 of Fallujah's (population 400,000) homes were beyond repair and another 19,000 were assessed to be damaged but repairable. If that fits the definition of "levelled" then Russia has "levelled" an enormous number of Ukrainian and Syrian towns and cities. Including:

Mariupol at 90% damaged or destroyed (population 426,000)

[Geronimo]

You have leveled Vietnamese cities poisoned them with chemical weapons, so didn't change a bit since WW2.

The worse mass murderers of this planed in a entire human history.

Are you on record as claiming the US are worse mass murderers of this planed than the Third Reich? Give us your numbers. Those are probably bull****.

What poisons were deployed in cities in Vietnam? Even agent orange, which was a dangerous herbicide but a laughably ineffective anti-personal weapon for all of its poisonous qualities would have been even less effective than a dirty bomb and was never deployed into non rural areas, especially not cities.

[Dinner]

-ABMT -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BTWC) -bure bull****, no evidence and no incentive.
- the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INFT) -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons treaty - I'll hear you out on this. I don't agree the US is violating the treaty.
- the Chemical Weapons Convention - At least the US is destroying them properly. Definitely not violating the spirit of the treaty. Lawsuits and nimbyism have made the process excruciatingly slow.
- the Treaty on Open Skies -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the nuclear treaty with Iran - I agree that this was a violation of a signed agreement by Trump that harms international law.

However US behavior on the world stage is demonstrably curtailed by international law.

The supposed Iran treaty was never ratified by Congress so, no, there never was such an agreement. Also the ABMY was legally abandoned after we found out Putin had been breaking it for years

[Serb]

That doesn't sound like a War Gods military record to me.

Oh yeah?
We have crushed the most military capable empires of Europe starting from Rzech Pospolita, Sweden, Napoleonic Frrance, the Ottoman Empire and finishin with Hitler's third Reich. I didn't mention Mongols, because they weren't Europeans. Now you think the empire of Yanks could be a problem for us?
We will just bury you.

[Serb]

Ukraine didn't attack your territory either. North Vietnam did attack a sovereign recognized US ally...South Vietnam however...

Yeah, and the Tonkin incident was never used by USA as a reason for war.

[Serb]

NATO was formed because Europe asked the US to defend her

BS!
NATO was formed to attack Russia, years before the Warsaw pact was formed.

[Serb]

-ABMT -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BTWC) -bure bull****, no evidence and no incentive.
- the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INFT) -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons treaty - I'll hear you out on this. I don't agree the US is violating the treaty.
- the Chemical Weapons Convention - At least the US is destroying them properly. Definitely not violating the spirit of the treaty. Lawsuits and nimbyism have made the process excruciatingly slow.
- the Treaty on Open Skies -had a legal mechanism to leave
- the nuclear treaty with Iran - I agree that this was a violation of a signed agreement by Trump that harms international law.

However US behavior on the world stage is demonstrably curtailed by international law.

Balh-blah-blah.

Words, words and words that worth nothing.

[Dinner]

https://youtu.be/UGZi-F3tz-o

[Geronimo]

Oh yeah?
We have crushed the most military capable empires of Europe starting from Rzech Pospolita, Sweden, Napoleonic Frrance, the Ottoman Empire and finishin with Hitler's third Reich. I didn't mention Mongols, because they weren't Europeans. Now you think the empire of Yanks could be a problem for us?
We will just bury you.

Dude...how many empires had the Roman empire destroyed when the upstart Ottomons came for them?

[Geronimo]

BS!
NATO was formed to attack Russia, years before the Warsaw pact was formed.

LOL!...because plans got drawn up for various offensives against the USSR and stuffed into file cabinets to collect dust right?

Dude, NATO never lifted a finger to execute those plans. You want to know what it looks like before an offensive? Don't look at the dusty file cabinets. Look at what Russia did with the disposition of Russian forces late 2021 to February 2022.

Has NATO ever done that?

[pchang]

It looks like even God is against Russia. This winter has been relatively mild.

[BeBMan]

We had 17C on Dec 31

In other news the German defence minister has been replaced. Was high time.

[PLATO]

So Russia looses 20,000 troops to take a town that had a prewar population of 10,500 and has no strategic importance. SOD Austin's comments on degrading Russia have relevance here I believe. Meanwhile, Ukraine may have a foothold in Kreminna, which actually does have strategic importance. Russia is a perfect example of how buffoons conduct a war.

Meanwhile, Britain should be a little more than halfway through training the second batch of 10,000 Ukrainian troops (10,000 every 120 days announced in June 2022). I imagine that intensive 6 week tank training is beginning on Leopards and Challenger2s. Patriot training is underway in Oklahoma. Looks like the Spring offensive is right on track.

Only wildcard here appears to be if Belarus can be forced into the war by Russia but it is doubtful that whatever of the 50,000 troops they have that can be committed will fair any better than the Russians have. They would likely face the same type obstacles that the original northern invasion did.

Although 2023 is shaping up to be a bloody year in the war, it my very well see peace talks by the end of summer. Hard to imagine that Russia can continue to sustain these type losses beyond that without a hugely unpopular full mobilization.

It is now clear that Ukraine is getting stronger by the day and Russia is getting weaker. Time for Global Firepower to bump China up to number 2 as clearly the Russians don't deserve that ranking at all.

[PLATO]

So it appears no Leopards for Ukraine...for now at least. From what I have been reading, the Germans wanted the Americans to commit to providing Abrams before they would commit to allowing Leopards to be released. The US is claiming that Ukraine could not logistically support the Abrams due to its use of Jet fuel instead of Diesel and the stringent maintenance requirements. I can't understand why the M60 hasn't entered the discussion from the American side. They performed extremely well against Iraqi T72s in the first Gulf war. We have hundreds if not thousands in storage. Something is odd about this whole tank thing.....