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Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia
It needs to be accessible too. Which I think means federal ID and a federal effort to get the ID to everyone who wants it over a course of 4-10 years.
JM
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
It needs to be accessible too. Which I think means federal ID and a federal effort to get the ID to everyone who wants it over a course of 4-10 years.
JM
I agree with the first part in total. I am not sure how a federal ID would be a better form of identification than a state ID however. Elections are state controlled...not federally controlled. It would seem that the controlling entity would be a better source of identification if for no other reason than it would be a more internal verification process. I would support a federal law that required states to make ID's available to all residents at no cost however.
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
16-22m in they discuss a 2013 USAID poll done in Crimea before the coup. Less than 5% wanted to be a common Ukrainian Oblast, a small majority wanted autonomy within Ukraine and a 1/4th wanted to join Russia. Then the right wing overthrew the compromise leader of Ukraine and Crimea asked Russia for help. Virtually all Crimeans opposed rule by Kiev in 2013 before the right wing coup and 8 years of war, how can we force them to live under the Nazis we armed if Ukraine "wins"?
What ar ewe doing other than supporting Ukraine to not be taken over and ruled by Russia.
What right has Russia to rule or topple the government of Ukraine?
You claim that Ukraine doesn't have the right to rule Crimea, which is historically and by international acknowledgement part of Ukraine. But why should that mean that Russia gets to take over the rest of Ukraine? Ukraine was getting minimal support before last year, especially considering it had been invaded by a large power and other nations (the US for example) had promised to support it when it gave up it's nuclear weapons.
JM
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
BTW, from Ukraine's experience from 2014-2021, my interpretation was that every nation that wanted to keep its sovereignty and had aggressive neighbors, needed to acquire nuclear weapons ASAP.
Possibly the wests support of Ukraine over the last 18 months might convince some nations that they can forgo nuclear weapons and just use alliances to keep themselves safe from a stronger neighbor.
JM
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
What ar ewe doing other than supporting Ukraine to not be taken over and ruled by Russia.
What right has Russia to rule or topple the government of Ukraine?
You claim that Ukraine doesn't have the right to rule Crimea, which is historically and by international acknowledgement part of Ukraine. But why should that mean that Russia gets to take over the rest of Ukraine? Ukraine was getting minimal support before last year, especially considering it had been invaded by a large power and other nations (the US for example) had promised to support it when it gave up it's nuclear weapons.
JM
We toppled their govt and armed Nazis to kill protesters, a victory for Ukraine means the victims will be ruled by Azov. I thought Crimea was Russian up until recently.
If we toppled and controlled their government, wouldn't we have been supporting them more, or having them do our will more?
It doesn't make sense.
JM
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
We toppled their govt and armed Nazis to kill protesters, a victory for Ukraine means the victims will be ruled by Azov. I thought Crimea was Russian up until recently.
Funny you mention that, on the subject of Nazis, Meduza reported last year:
When announcing the February invasion of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin said that one of Russia’s aims was to “denazify” the country. In the months since, Kremlin propaganda has continuously pushed the notion that Russian troops are “destroying” and capturing “nationalists,” “Banderities,” and “neo-Nazis” in Ukraine — painting all Ukrainian soldiers as far-right radicals and eliding the fact that thousands of innocent civilians have died as a result of the invasion. What the Kremlin’s propagandists have conveniently ignored, however, is the fact that several avowed ultra-right nationalists are actually fighting on Moscow’s side. Meduza tells the story of how Russian neo-Nazis were drawn into Vladimir Putin’s war to “denazify” Ukraine.
When announcing the February invasion of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin said that one of Russia’s aims was to “denazify” the country. In the months since, Kremlin propaganda has continuously pushed the notion that Russian troops are “destroying” and capturing “nationalists,” “Banderities,” and “neo-Nazis” in Ukraine — painting all Ukrainian soldiers as far-right radicals and eliding the fact that thousands of innocent civilians have died as a result of the invasion. What the Kremlin’s propagandists have conveniently ignored, however, is the fact that several avowed ultra-right nationalists are actually fighting on Moscow’s side. Meduza tells the story of how Russian neo-Nazis were drawn into Vladimir Putin’s war to “denazify” Ukraine.
Girkin was dismissed from his position in August 2014, after 298 people died when Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down. Dutch prosecutors charged Girkin and three others with murder,[7][8][9] and issued an international arrest warrant against him.[10] Girkin has admitted "moral responsibility" but denies pushing the button.[11] On 17 November 2022, Girkin was found guilty for the murder of 298 people, convicted of all charges in absentia, and issued a life sentence.[12]
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On 21 July 2023, Girkin was arrested by Russian authorities on charges of extremism.[23]
Last line from today. Wonder if this is confirmed.
Curious if he just got arrested since he is part of the Ru nationalist sphere and highly critical about Ru's own MOD, or if they plan to send him to Ukraine in aprisoner exchange for downing the airliner.
Last edited by BeBMan; July 21, 2023, 07:12.
Reason: Nah
Here btw. 2 very interesting pics/lists:
Russian VIPs who fell out of windows or died under other suspicious circumstances:
Other interesting lists ... who would be king makers if Putin died, which high ranking military leaders were killed in Ukraine and which were fired
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve." Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"
Well, considering our air power, we are not that bad :
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Meanwhile, Russia continues to attack grain silos and grain shipping infrastructure along the Ukrainian coastline.
Clearly they care about civilians.
Totally forgot this - according to local news the mighty russian wehrmact apparently won a great victory when they destroyed 80 tons of peas and 20 tons of grain in that attack
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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