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  • #46
    Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
    Apparently Russia used it's super high tech and very expensive hypersonic cruise missles to strke a Ukrainian depot.

    My question would be, why use its most expensive conventional ordnance to do something it could do with cheaper ordnance?
    Perhaps Ukraine still had effective point AA defences that Russia expected the hypersonic missile would bypass?

    Could be devastating for Ukraine if it was still relying on the depot. In this war they probably need to disperse munitions and equipment throughout their forces.

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    • #47
      Yes, that seems the most likely explanation. Alternatively, that missile system is brand new so maybe they just wanted to test it? I doubt they have more than a handful though so most of their munitions are going to be the old fashioned dumb kind.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Dinner View Post
        Yes, that seems the most likely explanation. Alternatively, that missile system is brand new so maybe they just wanted to test it?....
        That would be my assumption as well.
        The missile strike was the first use of a hypersonic missile in a real war
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        • #49
          That could be it, and it's certainly how they're painting it, but perhaps their other stocks have either proven ineffective (per Geronimo's comment), or are simply running out.
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          • #50
            If they had hypersonic generals that would also minimize losses in that regard. They could zoom forward to restore morale and be back in a safe spot behind the front in no time. But so I read there are now 5 or 6 higher ranking casualties? May not be confirmed all yet tho.
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            • pchang
              pchang commented
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              I think it is 5 Generals and 8 Colonels (or their equivalent).

          • #51
            Maybe their normal missiles aren't operational because the generals were using the maintenance budget to buy houses in London?

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            • #52
              No idea if these generals are in that category of rich.

              But some of those making the news seem to have been active in Syria. Kinda poetic.
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              • pchang
                pchang commented
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                Some were active in Chechnya too.

            • #53
              Серб, СССР кончился 30 лет назад и за все ето время, все что въ успели сделать тот же самъй дeрмовъ совецкий союз. Въ могли сделат просперироящею богатою державу, а въ вибрали ето...
              Очень грустно....

              For the non-Russian speakers:
              Serb, the USSR ended 30 years ago, and for all that time, all that you managed to do was the same ****ty Soviet Union. You could have created a prospering and rich country, but instead Russians chose this ...
              Very sad....
              Quendelie axan!

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              • Proteus_MST
                Proteus_MST commented
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                Especially considering that Russia earnedd lots of money due to its gas and oil sales, especially during the last 2 years.

                It lets one wonder what a paradise russia could be if the money had wandered into social projects (that benefit the whole russian population) instead of wandering into the pockets of Putin and his Oligarchs

            • #54
              Originally posted by giblets View Post
              Maybe their normal missiles aren't operational because the generals were using the maintenance budget to buy houses in London?
              For decades Russia has announced new weapons system but they don't have the cash to put them into production. Basically, they need to find foreign buyers to pay for it first and it has been hard for Russia to export untried weapon systems.

              Also, I saw this quote in the news this morning:
              • Ukraine continued to effectively hold its airspace, British defense ministry said, forcing Russia to largely rely on weapons launched from the "relative safety of Russian airspace."
              https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/uk...tes-03-20-2022
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              • #55
                Seems kind of odd to fire off just one fancy missile and that's it. Not sure what it actually hit or if it made much of a difference in the war effort.. Seems like a message to me. Look out you guys or we will make another one in a few weeks and fire that one off. Maybe we hit the local Mc Donalds next time.

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                • #56
                  Putin just divided the Russians in 2 groups : the pure, good, real Russians and his "enemies", the traitors, the decadent non-Russians
                  I wonder what type of people would dehumanize their internal opposition... right, NAZIs did.

                  Again it appears that Ukraine has a nazi problem. It started about 3-4 weeks ago.
                  "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                  • Donegeal
                    Donegeal commented
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                    I don't really see this as that far from what's happening in the US (and I think, by extension, the rest of the Western World. ie: Boris Johnson, Brexit, extremism pockets in Germany, France, and Scandinavia). There's trumpets, and everyone else; and both think the other means the end of the country/world.

                  • dannubis
                    dannubis commented
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                    You don't get jailed in US or Europe for VOICING your opinion on the wars our countries were fighting. I know, I did voice my opposition loud and clear.

                  • Donegeal
                    Donegeal commented
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                    True, but the rhetoric is the same.

                • #57
                  Originally posted by Trillion View Post
                  Seems kind of odd to fire off just one fancy missile and that's it. Not sure what it actually hit or if it made much of a difference in the war effort.. Seems like a message to me. Look out you guys or we will make another one in a few weeks and fire that one off. Maybe we hit the local Mc Donalds next time.
                  Maybe they only had one missile.

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                  • #58
                    Originally posted by dannubis View Post
                    Putin just divided the Russians in 2 groups : the pure, good, real Russians and his "enemies", the traitors, the decadent non-Russians
                    I wonder what type of people would dehumanize their internal opposition... right, NAZIs did.

                    Again it appears that Ukraine has a nazi problem. It started about 3-4 weeks ago.
                    Of course, Serb does not want to be a traitor, so he will be sure to agree with everything Putin says or does.

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                    • #59
                      So he approves of stealing?
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                      • #60
                        The administration of the Buchenwald memorial centre in Germany has said a man who survived a number of concentration camps during World War Two was killed in the bombing on his home in the north-eastern city of Kharkiv on Friday, according to his relatives.

                        Boris Romantschenko, who was 96, "actively campaigned for the memory of the crimes of Nazism and was vice president of the Buchenwald-Dora International Committee", they said in a series of tweets.
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