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    A new book from Politico reporter Ben Schreckinger reportedly confirms the authenticity of at least two emails from Hunter Biden's laptop, vindicating the New York Post's reporting from last October on the Biden family's business dealings with Ukrainian partners.

    Politico's Playbook newsletter reports that in Schreckinger's new book, "The Bidens: Inside the First Family's Fifty-Year Rise to Power," an independent source who had access to Hunter Biden's emails confirmed that he received a 2015 email from a top executive at Burisma, a Ukrainian natural gas company, thanking him for a meeting with Joe Biden, who was vice president at the time.






    A 2017 email detailing a "lucrative" deal with a Chinese energy company that included a proposed equity breakdown for the parties involved and included the line, "10 held by H for the big guy?" was also verified.

    "Emails released by a Swedish government agency also match emails in the leaked cache, and two people who corresponded with Hunter Biden confirmed emails from the cache were genuine," Politico reported.



    The contents of Hunter Biden's laptop were reported by the New York Post last October, ahead of the 2020 presidential election. At the time, the Donald Trump campaign alleged that Joe Biden had misused his office as vice president by pressuring government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma. His son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the company's board.





    The emails reported by the Post suggested that Joe Biden had repeatedly lied about not being involved in Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings and raised questions about Biden's conduct as vice president.

    However, the Post's reporting was censored by social media companies like Facebook, which suppressed the articles distribution, and Twitter, which outright banned users from sharing the article. Facebook claimed that its fact-checkers needed time to review the accuracy of the Post's report while Twitter said the news story violated its Hacked Materials Policy.

    Meanwhile, many mainstream media news outlets either refused to discuss the Post story or attacked the story as Russian disinformation. Politico in October 2020 reported a letter from more than 50 senior intelligence officials who accused the Hunter Biden emails of having "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation."

    After that report, Joe Biden's campaign insisted that videos, text messages, and emails from Hunter Biden's laptop were a Russian hoax. Biden claimed during one presidential debate that "50 former national intelligence folks" told him it was a "Russian plant."
    Anything else?


    Journalist Glenn Greenwald blasted "Big Tech's censoring this reporting" in a Twitter thread condemning journalists who had ignored the story because they wanted Joe Biden to win the election.

    "People complaining about pre-election censorship by Google in Russia cheered Big Tech's censoring this reporting," Greenwald said.

    He took his former employer, The Intercept, to task for writing articles that supported the claims from intelligence officials denouncing the Hunter Biden email story without investigating the accuracy of their assertions.

    He also criticized Facebook for suppressing the Hunter Biden story, noting that "life-long Dem operative" Andy Stone serves as the company's policy communications director.

    Greenwald also called out NPR's Public Editor for refusing to publish news stories on Hunter Biden's emails and CNN's Christiane Amanpour for claiming it wasn't a journalist's job to verify the emails.

    "The pre-election joint censorship campaign by the media, Big Tech & CIA was always a gigantic story. The CIA spun an outright lie about these docs that helped these platforms censor the docs while *journalists* cheered that," Greenwald said. "In light of this new book, it's time to re-visit it."
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  • #2
    For reference. But there's no deep state or collusion between corrupt government and corrupt media, right?


    Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say


    More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son.

    More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden, pictured here, “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.” | Handout/DNCC via Getty Images

    By NATASHA BERTRAND

    10/19/2020 10:30 PM EDT
    More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

    The letter, signed on Monday, centers around a batch of documents released by the New York Post last week that purport to tie the Democratic nominee to his son Hunter’s business dealings. Under the banner headline “Biden Secret E-mails,” the Post reported it was given a copy of Hunter Biden’s laptop hard drive by President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who said he got it from a Mac shop owner in Delaware who also alerted the FBI.

    While the letter’s signatories presented no new evidence, they said their national security experience had made them “deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case” and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin’s hand at work.
    “If we are right,” they added, “this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.”

    Nick Shapiro, a former top aide under CIA director John Brennan, provided POLITICO with the letter on Monday. He noted that “the IC leaders who have signed this letter worked for the past four presidents, including Trump. The real power here however is the number of former, working-level IC officers who want the American people to know that once again the Russians are interfering."
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    The former Trump administration officials who signed the letter include Russ Travers, who served as National Counterterrorism Center acting director; Glenn Gerstell, the former NSA general counsel; Rick Ledgett, the former deputy NSA director; Marc Polymeropoulos, a retired CIA senior operations officer; and Cynthia Strand, who served as the CIA’s deputy assistant director for global issues. Former CIA directors or acting directors Brennan, Leon Panetta, Gen. Michael Hayden, John McLaughlin and Michael Morell also signed the letter, along with more than three dozen other intelligence veterans. Several of the former officials on the list have endorsed Biden.

    Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said on Monday that the information on Biden’s laptop “is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” though the FBI is reportedly conducting an ongoing investigation into whether Russia was involved.

    The New York Times raised questions on Sunday about the rigor of the Post’s reporting process, revealing that several of its reporters had refused to put their name on the Biden stories because they were concerned about the authenticity of the materials. The Post stood by its reporting, saying it was vetted before publication.


    But the release of the material, which POLITICO has not independently verified, has drawn comparisons to 2016, when Russian hackers dumped troves of emails from Democrats onto the internet — producing few damaging revelations but fueling accusations of corruption by Trump. While there has been no immediate indication of Russian involvement in the release of emails the Post obtained, its general thrust mirrors a narrative that U.S. intelligence agencies have described as part of an active Russian disinformation effort aimed at denigrating Biden’s candidacy.


    He's been in the Senate since 2003, but this year could be his last. POLITICO's Andrew Desiderio traces Lindsey Graham's transformation from a moderate Republican known for working across the aisle to a staunch defender of President Trump.

    “We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement,” the letter reads. But, it continues, “there are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement.”

    “Such an operation would be consistent with Russian objectives, as outlined publicly and recently by the Intelligence Community, to create political chaos in the United States and to deepen political divisions here but also to undermine the candidacy of former Vice President Biden and thereby help the candidacy of President Trump,” the letter reads.

    National Counterintelligence and Security Center Director Bill Evanina said in August that Russia has been trying to denigrate Biden’s campaign, specifically through a Ukrainian lawmaker named Andriy Derkach who has met with Giuliani at least twice to discuss corruption accusations against Biden. Derkach was sanctioned by the Treasury Department last month for allegedly acting as a Russian agent and interfering in the 2020 election.

    Giuliani brushed off concerns about Derkach in an interview with The Daily Beast this week, saying “the chance that Derkach is a Russian spy is no better than 50/50.” And he told The Wall Street Journal of the purported Biden email trove: “Could it be hacked? I don’t know. I don’t think so. If it was hacked, it’s for real. If it was hacked. I didn’t hack it. I have every right to use it.”


    BY NATASHA BERTRAND AND KYLE CHENEY

    The former officials said Derkach’s relationship with Giuliani and fixation on the Bidens, along with Russia’s reported hack on Burisma — the Ukrainian energy company that gave Hunter Biden a board seat and is at the center of Trump and his allies’ corruption allegations — “is consistent with” a Russian operation.
    “For the Russians at this point, with Trump down in the polls, there is incentive for Moscow to pull out the stops to do anything possible to help Trump win and/or to weaken Biden should he win,” the letter says. “A ‘laptop op’ fits the bill, as the publication of the emails are clearly designed to discredit Biden.”

    Top Biden advisers who staffed him during his vice presidency, citing their own recollections as well as a review of Biden’s official schedules, have sharply rejected suggestions that Biden ever met with a representative of Burisma in 2015 or has otherwise been involved in Hunter Biden’s business interests.

    "Investigations by the press, during impeachment, and even by two Republican-led Senate committees whose work was decried as 'not legitimate' and political by a GOP colleague have all reached the same conclusion: that Joe Biden carried out official U.S. policy toward Ukraine and engaged in no wrongdoing,” Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said last week. “Trump administration officials have attested to these facts under oath.”

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    • #3
      That title is incorrect. If the laptop was faked or disinformation ( which it obviously was ) then the fakers would put some authentic emails mixed in with the fake ones.

      That is why providence is required for things to be believable.

      This comes across as Russian disinformation.

      What would be required to authenticate the accusations is for emails or other evidence that is independent of the laptop. There is no way to authenticate the laptop, due to how it was acquired..

      JM
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      • #4
        The Biden family are traitors to the United States of America.

        They're absolute criminals doing nothing but crime.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #5
          That is obviously untrue. Even if the accusations against Joe Biden are true (which there is no defensible evidence in favor of).

          JM
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
            If the laptop was faked or disinformation ( which it obviously was ) then the fakers would put some authentic emails mixed in with the fake ones.


            JM
            ffs again.

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            • #7
              Due to the chain of custody/providence it is impossible to 'authenticate' the laptop. Anyone who has sat through IT security training would know this.

              It is possible to 'authenticate' individual emails, but in those cases the laptop has no bearing.

              JM
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                Due to the chain of custody/providence it is impossible to 'authenticate' the laptop. Anyone who has sat through IT security training would know this.

                It is possible to 'authenticate' individual emails, but in those cases the laptop has no bearing.

                JM
                You are bringing up meaningless points. The signature has been verified by multiple experts.
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                • #9
                  How is the signature a meaningful point?

                  JM
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                  • #10
                    Did the chain of custody between Hunter Biden and the FBI/etc include multiple people (even an unknown number of people) with unknown capabilities and biases (and definitely included people who have biases in favor of Trump and thus, in favor of cooking up dirt against Trump's opponents )?

                    Can you even say who has custody of the laptop now? I just realized that I don't know if it was ever turned over to the FBI/etc.

                    JM
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                      How is the signature a meaningful point?

                      JM
                      I don't really know how to answer this. Why do we use signatures?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                        Did the chain of custody between Hunter Biden and the FBI/etc include multiple people (even an unknown number of people) with unknown capabilities and biases (and definitely included people who have biases in favor of Trump and thus, in favor of cooking up dirt against Trump's opponents )?

                        Can you even say who has custody of the laptop now? I just realized that I don't know if it was ever turned over to the FBI/etc.

                        JM
                        The FBI has the laptop. Two people that are in the email chains have verified that the incriminating emails are authentic.

                        All of that really misses the whole point of this thread, which is that the media and 50 former intelligence officials lied about this being Russian disinformation to make sure Biden became President and so that more people would be fooled into believing that he isn't an agent for the CCP.
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                        • #13
                          I think space aliens faked the laptop so people would think it was a disinformation campaign so people would stop thinking it was a Russian conspiracy and instead believe it was a communist China plot so nobody would ever suspect it was a space alien conspiracy!

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                          • #14
                            how dare those dastardly Russians give Hunter's laptop to the FBI

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                            • #15
                              Was it a gaming laptop? Wondering about the max resolution he could run games with everything on ultra...
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