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  • Russia's shame, (Turkey's stupidity)

    Alas, Russia showed both her amoralistic approach to international affairs

    It sold out Armenia. Not big time. VERY big time.

    And that's fine. If that's your interest, it's fine but don't claim you have morals.

    I sign what I say: noone EVER is going to trust Russia again.


    It sold out Armenia so it can get its claws on Azerbaijan which is now hostage to it and the west lost a major energy route. (if RUssia wills it)



    And Turkey that damn dictator **** bastart, played PERFECTLY Russia's role without realizing it.

    If it's NATO it adheres to, it screwd up the alliance big time and also, it screwed up the west (US/EU) immensly because it basically played the bluff of Russia. It fell right into its trap.


    So congrats to Russia, I have never EVER seen such screwd game in my life and of course all trust is lost and also


    and I would like to pause here: a moment of silence for Armenia

  • #2
    But of course and thank God n0thing is all bad,

    expect Armenia to become fevershly pro - western (no that doesn't mean more kardashians)

    Armenians kicked the russian backed oligarchs and the thanks they got is major lands grabbed.

    That's ok, you probably got a lot more out of it


    EU is dead we all know that


    but Trump's inaction severed a major energy blood line and let me jsut say go **** yourself you're gone not a mintue too soon

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    • #3
      It seems more like the status quo has been maintained though I haven’t been watching carefully.
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      • #4
        "noone EVER is going to trust Russia again."
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #5
          Ahh, the land strip connecting the Armenian on clave in Azerbaijan has to be returned to Azerbaijan. Yes, that is a fairly large concession as it means the enclave can now be besieged.
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          • #6
            what I say is public domain


            it's about the allegience of azerbaijan where in the casipan sea the shant deniz natural gas resource helps enormously diversify energy routes to the EU (which is also US want/ detach from Russia's dependance)

            darn it Dinner, you'e cluelwss about virtually anything

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            • #7
              We need to detach the EU and US from fossil fuels asap, because of geopolitical situations like this, and also because of climate change. The trillions spent in Iraq should have been the wake up call and the climate emergency is happening right now, but nobody talks about it.

              Even conservatives will support renewable energy when it's framed in the context of a national security issue.

              Russia, China, the US, and especially Turkey all have ****ty leadership right now which lets these stupid type of events happen with no international oversight.
              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • #8
                I never thought I’d say it but Paintis needs to have a drink and relax.
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              • #9
                Hey guise, it's me. I thought I would grace this thrade with a song. No, not a Rap video, but an original piece sung by me. Here goes...

                *clears throat*

                Jiggle-Blub, Jiggle-Blub, JIGGLE ALL-THE-WAY!
                Oh what fun, it is to shake, OERDIN'S BELLY TOO-DAAY! HEY!

                Thank you.
                The Wizard of AAHZ

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                • #10
                  I doubt very much that Russia or Putin is feeling any shame. Frankly, no one should have ever trusted Russia in the first place. As for Turkey, Erdogan only cares about retaining and enhancing his own power.
                  Last edited by pchang; November 12, 2020, 22:06.
                  “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                  ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                  • #11
                    I am bumping this thrade so people can see my Oerdin-Song™
                    The Wizard of AAHZ

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by ZEE View Post
                      I am bumping this thrade so people can see my Oerdin-Song™
                      That's a damn good song.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                        "noone EVER is going to trust Russia again."
                        I support Trump over Biden, of course I trust Russia.
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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                          Alas, Russia showed both her amoralistic approach to international affairs

                          It sold out Armenia. Not big time. VERY big time.

                          Of really?
                          Why would Russia be there in the first place to do something for an American puppet Pashinyan?

                          Where were America, France, Germany, the whole f*cking West to stop the war? What they have done to stop the war?!!!

                          Why the f*ck you stupid f*cks thought that Russia will spit its blood and start a WW3 over YOUR Western puppet, while its masters did nothing to help it?
                          Turn-on your brain and tell me, Paik, why do you think during the modern conflict Armenia didn't recognized Artzah and didn't declared war on Azerbaijan over it?

                          Why Armenia didn't moved its army to protect Artzah?

                          Any WHY THE F*CK Russia should have done this, instead of Armenia?

                          WHY?

                          We have no obligations towards Arzakh! We have a military alliance with Armenia, but she did not declared a war over Azerbaijan and didn't ask us for any military help in the conflict, you IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                          And that's fine. If that's your interest, it's fine but don't claim you have morals.

                          I sign what I say: noone EVER is going to trust Russia again.
                          Like we care!
                          We have seen a sh!tloads of "gratitude" from the countries we have saved from the total extermination.

                          But the truth is that - NONE, not America, not EU, not Martians had stopped the war and saved Artzah from the genocide!

                          There are Russian peacekeepers there, not American or Greek ones!!!

                          RUSSIAN!!!

                          WE DID SAVED THEM, NOT YOU OR MARTIANS!!!


                          And what you and all others "братушки" should learn from this lesson is that you can't have an anti-Russian government, you can't spit on Russia, throw your grave insults to her and at the same time still believe that Russia will save you, when your your sole existance will be on stake.

                          That doesn't work that way!!!

                          You either our brother (and behave accordingly) or be c*ck-sucker of US who never helps anyone except itself.


                          It sold out Arme
                          nia so it can get its claws on Azerbaijan which is now hostage to it and the west lost a major energy route. (if RUssia wills it)
                          Once again - if Armenia has decideded not to fight for Arzakh, then why should we?

                          How exactly we have betrayed anyone?

                          Armenia didn't DOW Azerbajan over Arzakh and never asked us to help in this war.

                          Get back to the f*cking reality, not to the sh!t your media pulls into your heads!


                          And Turkey that damn dictator **** bastart, played PERFECTLY Russia's role without realizing it.


                          Who the f*ck do you think Greeks, to teach us about being overplayed by someone?
                          We play in the top league for five centuries.
                          And you have lost everything you could and became independedt again in the 19th century only thanks to Russia.

                          Know your place, you lecturer of geopolitics!



                          If it's NATO it adheres to, it screwd up the alliance big time and also, it screwed up the west (US/EU) immensly because it basically played the bluff of Russia. It fell right into its trap.


                          So congrats to Russia, I have never EVER seen such screwd game in my life and of course all trust is lost and also


                          and I would like to pause here: a moment of silence for Armenia

                          You are an idiot, Paik, really!

                          Please, answer a seven simple questions for me:

                          1) Whose peacekeepers are there now to stop the war - an American ones, an EU or Russian?

                          2) Why the f*ck do you think Russia had an obligation to save Arzakh, if Armenia didn't declared war and didn't moved it's 45K corps to save it when it was needed there?

                          3) Do you honestly believe that Russians should have fought in Arzakh instead of Armenia?

                          4) Why the f*ck you didn't declare war on Turkey and Azerbaijan? (like you suggest Russia should have)

                          5) Why the f*ck Russians should have fight for a country which is a puppet of USA after the Orange revolution of 2018? Why not their masters - US of A?

                          6) Are you THAT stupid?

                          7) Are you really is?
                          Last edited by Serb; November 14, 2020, 02:20.

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                          • #15
                            Do you honestly think that Russia is some kind of a f*cking Santa Claus you can spit on between an January and November and still expect a present at December?


                            REALLY?!!!

                            Then you are an idiots!
                            Last edited by Serb; November 14, 2020, 02:21.

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