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Originally posted by Aeson
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But Brennan briefed Obama on it. That indicates that it was vetted. Unless Brennan fed him disinformation.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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That isn't what is in question. The claim ahainst Hillary was information obtained from Russian intelligence that US IC could not corroborate.Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
Obama was briefed on it. Sent it to the FBI to investigate. Senate Judiciary Committee was informed. 4 years later ... 0 indictments even though "lock her up" Trump had his picks for FBI and Justice, Rs controlled Senate, and for 2 years Rs controlled House.Comment
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You're making this difficult. One document that was declassified said that the information wasn't verified. That doesn't mean that it wasn't ever verified. Brennan told the President about it. We now know that from other documents (Brennan's notes). The Dir of CIA does not give the President unverified information. Therefore it was verified when the President received it.Originally posted by Aeson View Post
It is not illegal to lie about political opponents. That's why Hillary is not charged for any crime.
But it is crooked as hell, and down right wicked for all these people to do this to America and everyone they have personally harmed.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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oh... In that case...nevermindComment
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Presidents are briefed on matters that are not certain all the time. FBI is literally the Federal Bureau that investigates such (domestic) matters.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostComment
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They aren't given information before the intelligence community checks it out. What do you think they do, give him unverified information, so he can ask them if they tried to verify it? No they try to verify it. There is nothing in Brennan's note that indicates that they never tried to verify it, and then it was sent over to the FBI.Originally posted by Aeson View Post
It was sent to the FBI to conduct a counterintelligence investigation, not to verify Brennan's information. The FBI doesn't work for the CIA. The CIA can not investigate such matters. But they verify information.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Where are you getting the claim that it was investigated by the FBI btw. I just watched a clip of Brennan on CNN justifying that it wasn't sent to the FBI because there weren't any laws broke. Of course it should have been sent for counterintelligence investigation since the Russians were colluding with Hillary.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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All this coming from a guy who supports our Putin-worshipping President, whose entire campaign was run by Russia-connected lobbyists, grifters and thieves - many of whom have actually been tried and convicted of actual crimes - unlike anyone in the Obama administration. Never has a POTUS has to spend so much political capital to protect himself by pardoning guilty members of his own campaign staff and administration. It's laughably embarrassing.
Donald J. Trump has clearly worked to hinder all investigations against him, and his ongoing refusal to show the public his taxes and financials are far more damning than the nothingburger of distraction that this "investigation" represents. At the very least, Donald Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice.
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"The IC does not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication."Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
That was in the letter sent to the Senate Judiciary AFTER Obama was briefed. Not just shortly after ... 4 YEARS AFTER THE IC STILL CANNOT CORROBORATE THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE ACCORDING TO Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe.
The IC includes the CIA and FBI as well as other agencies.
Your claim that Obama wouldn't be briefed on something that wasn't already proven is clearly false. It obviously happened. 4 years after the briefing THE INFORMATION HE WAS BRIEFED ON IS STILL UNVERIFIED.Comment
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From the article you linked to. You should try reading it.Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
"On 07 September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI Director James Comey ..."Comment
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Brennan's notes were just declassified, that is, after the letter sent to the Senate Judiciary. Radcliff declassified the notes because Democrats are making this out to be disinformation. There is no evidence of it being disinformation. Why would Brennan feed the President disinformation? And without checking it out? That makes no sense.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Did you also read that the President's advisors aren't supposed to give him possible Russian disinformation?Originally posted by Aeson View Post
It was sent to the FBI, for counterintelligence investigation. It was sent to Comey and Strzok, the counterintelligence head. We have no evidence that they conducted any investigation.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Also, Comey testified under oath that he doesn't remember learning about the information. Probably a lie, but if an investigation was conducted then he is caught lying under oath.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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So it wasn't investigated, and Fox News says their source tells them that many people in Congress have requested this document and never received it. We only have it now because the President authorized its declasification.Originally posted by Aeson View Post
"Another source familiar with the documents told Fox News that "this information has been sought by hundreds of congressional requests for legitimate oversight purposes and was withheld for political spite—and the belief that they’d never get caught."
The source added that the Brennan notes are significant because it is “their own words, written and memorialized in real time.”
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Factual claims by Trump's DNI:Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
4 years ago Obama was briefed on this.
4 years ago it was referred to the FBI.
4 years later the intelligence is not corroborated.
Reasonable conclusions:
- Obama was briefed on it before it was verified.
- Kid and author of right wing propaganda source don't understand the way time works.
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why didn't Trump release all this stuff years ago?Comment
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